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OpenAI's math scoops spark mathematician revolt over 'stolen' proofsMathematicians say OpenAI's methods are corroding the field
6 Sep 11 · 13d ago · 14 articles · 24 posts · 4 comments · 6 sources · development 6 of 8
The Economist reports top mathematicians outraged by OpenAI's methods, while other mathematicians and commentators warn the dynamic discourages young people from entering the field.
“Mathematicians are unhappy about OpenAI. The gist of their argument is that they form a community that trains young people.”
@lemireTristan Buckmaster NYU mathematics professorLevent Alpöge Mathematician, Buckmaster's collaboratorAndreas Thom MathematicianOpenAI AI companyJames Robinson Mathematician, University of Warwick
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first by HN Frontpage, 13d ago · also The Economist
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OpenAI says it's no longer sponsoring Caltech's math hackathon, where participants use AI to solve research problems, following criticism of "slop mathematics" (Truman Dickerson/Business Insider) https://www. businessinsider.com/openai-cal tech-ai-math-hackathon-backlash-anthropic-2026-9 http://www. techmeme.com/260911/p13#a26091 1p13
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meanwhile, 25 Fields Medal-winning mathematicians are calling out AI for threatening their work and culture
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The researcher in the link [0] says that OpenAI offered to co write with him the paper about Navier Stokes theorem if he only agrees to not include his co researcher who was also working on this. I find this highly unethical by multi billion dollar organisations to arm twist small and big researchers like this.[0]
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RE: https:// mathstodon.xyz/@tao/1172536299 67855195 Elements of this declaration on mathematics and AI remind me that, in science, an accurate prediction of the behavior/state of a system in the absence of an explanation might be practically useful, but it is intellectually (scientifically) worthless. See also the “problem (fallacy) of induction”…
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Tech crunch doesn’t mince words: open ai gebruikte (of liever jatte) bestaande kennis en besteedde 22 miljoen dollar om sneller te kunnen publiceren dan de menselijke wetenschappers.
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Another scenario also just surfaced: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49657499 – the construction used by Anthropic for the Jacobian Conjecture counterexample appears to have existed in an unpublished but publically available document. This document of course wasn't referenced in the announcement (nor did we ever get to see the prompt or…
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Research (and culture) are a commons. AI reasoning is not. «We are witnessing a general threat to intellectual work, with misalignment between the outcome of the use of AI and its initial purpose. In many fields and activities, years of training have traditionally served not only to produce a final answer or product, but also to develop…
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I think OP's analogy is bad. The difference of OpenAI when comparing to human collaborator is the possibility to replicate once learned skill. Imagine if any single human collaborator learns a skill it is immediately a skill of any human collaborator.
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„Wenn unveröffentlichte Forschung von Nutzern zur Verbesserung eines Modells beiträgt und der Anbieter dieses Modell anschließend nutzt, um ihnen bei der Veröffentlichung zuvorzukommen (…), wäre das ethisch unvertretbar“, schreibt Thom. (Zitat aus einem Heise-Artikel) ChatGPT verwertet eure Chats! Theoretisch unter Einstellungen abstellbar…
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> I think it's a useful analogy to compare OpenAI to a human collaborator.A human collaborator who stands to win or loose a couple of $100B.
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RE: https:// mathstodon.xyz/@tao/1172536299 67855195 this is really worth reading; it's both brief and eloquent. The time required to get to a solution is an intrinsic part of the value of the solution; shortcuts misunderstand the nature of scientific progress and discovery, and put the entire human learning ecosystem at risk.
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A group of 25 Fields Medalists, including myself, have made a joint declaration on Math and AI: https://mathandai.org/ . We welcome additional signatories (similar to the Leiden declaration), as can be seen on the page. See also this article in the Economist announcing the declaration:
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Twenty-five leading mathematicians signed an open letter arguing that AI labs are threatening their intellectual work. https:// techcrunch.com/2026/09/11/open ais-feud-with-mathematicians-is-only-escalating/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=mastodon
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Oh no! Where will you get the work that you can plagiarize and claim as a breakthrough now? https://www. businessinsider.com/openai-cal tech-ai-math-hackathon-backlash-anthropic-2026-9
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RE: https:// mathstodon.xyz/@tao/1172536299 67855195 ah, so it is slop astroturf (this guy is in bed with openai)
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RE: https:// mathstodon.xyz/@tao/1172536299 67855195 I have endorsed this.
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