Commenters challenge "apocalyptic predictions always wrong" logic
2 Sep 14 8:00 AM · 13d ago · 8 comments · 1 source · development 2 of 3
Multiple HN commenters argue Byrne's claim that past apocalyptic predictions about technology have all been wrong is a survivorship-bias fallacy, since a true prediction would have prevented anyone from being around to note it.
“If any past apocalyptic prediction had been true, you would not have been around to write this sentence and we would not have been around to read it.”
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Dario Amodei CEO of Anthropic
Eliezer Yudkowsky AI safety advocate
David Sacks Commentator on XPreston Byrne Lawyer and blogger, author of the critique
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> History does provide a great deal of guidance, however, about the use and misuse of government power. It tells us that the state is in fact likely the worst possible custodian for the most powerful publication and data analysis technologies.Like, no. The worst custodian is someone like Thiel or Musk or Altman.> In foreign countries, particularly…
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What's up with this split or democratic vs non-democratic countries? It doesn't even add-up because you can easily make a case that China is a democratic country with a far better system of governance and ability to control this problem than "Western" governments. Highly suggest this quick read on the different types of democracy in our glorious…
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This isn't a new question: quis custodiet ipsos custodes?In general, the way things work in the USA is that megacorporations write the regulatory frameworks for their own industries. These regulations are typically burdensome enough to be shouldered by the megacorporations while crushing the smaller players in the given market(s). The AI companies…
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> Nobody knows the answer and history is no guide, save that apocalyptic predictions about new technologies have, to date, all been wrong.By definition, apocalyptic predictions will always be wrong, until they are right exactly once.Also know as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkey_illusionTo date, all apocalyptic predictions about nuclear war and…
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Alignment is just a 1984-esque way of saying "censorship".And this censorship isn't a defined list of things not to discuss, but instead a feels-based censorship based on the 'ethics' of for-profit AI companies who have absolutely no issues with massive for-profit piracy.And we are somehow supposed to trust their "ethics"?! Hardly!That's one…
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> As my regular readers will be aware, I have been engaged, on behalf of my clients, in legal combat with Internet censors around the world, agencies who think that they have both the standing, the competence, and the right to tell American companies what software they can write and run, for the better part of 18 months.Is this supposed to make me…
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Not sure it needs to be about publications and data analysis technology as such to regulate AI development, for example - could be about processes, procedures, people, etc., no?
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I'm not even sure that the author is correct. The industrial revolution was pretty apocalyptic for the people forced to work in dangerous factories for minimal pay.
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By that logic, literally any ridiculous supposition must be taken seriously, because you can’t prove a negative.
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