Commenter cites NYT report on Chinese military AI-risk warnings as counter-evidence
2 Sep 14 1:04 PM · 13d ago · 11 comments · 1 source · development 2 of 2
A Hacker News commenter says a New York Times story reporting that the Chinese military also views AI as a threat shifted them away from viewing doom talk as pure regulatory-capture hype.
“If two sides so far apart from one another in so many ways see the same thing, there must be something to it.”
reaperducerErkan Saka Media scholar, essay authorEvan Hubinger Head of alignment science, AnthropicJacob Coxon Former pretraining researcher, OpenAI and Anthropic
Sam Altman OpenAI CEO
Dario Amodei Anthropic CEO
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> Like if its true it can't be hypehttps://www.npr.org/2016/07/26/487522807/why-the-public-perc...Could AI kill us all. YES!!! Are the people who are building "AI" right now on that path? I would be hard pressed to say even "maybe".Ultimately continuing to scale the way they have is getting increasingly expensive. Thats the quiet part that none of…
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I applaud the clearly AI-pilled author for starting to pull themselves out of their echo chamber, but clearly some more work needs to be done.This statement is not true:> Coxon's thread is genuinely anguished; he reports that executives who "couch their phrasing in the press to sound sensible" express real fear in privateMost everyone at the AI…
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> and it concerns containment failure, reward hacking, and evaluation integrity, a governance and engineering problem, rather than machine malevolence.The doom scenario is more nuanced and technical than "Evil AI", for starters:- "Evil AI" is not what is predicted, which instead is the much more banal "humans are impediment to AI's tasks, let's…
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The sources that this article cites have aged very badly and the author doesn't seem to have noticed this"But, just as happened with nanotech, the wind appears to be going out of the sales of “AI.” Some researchers suggest that we may be entering a new “AI Winter,” a period of decreased funding in the area, or at least an “AI Autumn,” as…
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Like if its true it can't be hypeI was kind of leaning toward thinking all the talk of doom was a bunch of self-serving regulatory-capture hype until this morning when the New York Times ran a long story about the Chinese military is also saying that AI is a threat.If two sides so far apart from one another in so many ways see the same thing…
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This article reads like it was written by Claude.Also those at Anthropic genuinely believe AI could lead to doom, that's why they started the company, they believe only they can be stewards of digital gods. Whether you believe it or not, they genuinely do, and wouldn't voluntarily sow fear, uncertainty and doubt in their product when it doesn't…
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There's been substantial effort put into designing and running benchmarks for these models. You know which one they don't report any more? Chess ELO.Watt for watt, every one of these models loses to stockfish. There is no possible scenario where we need to be afraid of "rogue superintelligence" when the intelligence in question cannot reason or…
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Why not? Why can’t the believe their statements and also use them to generate hype?If they sincerely believed them they shouldn’t be creating the doom machine to begin with anyway. If they believe it and keep going, are they even worth listening to on this topic? Beyond of course taking it at face value “I’m creating this doomsday machine and I…
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I think their trying to make the public believe they're cautious individuals who intend on helping humanity advance, with their recent calls for a slow down on AI development. This way people will be more amenable and willing to use their LLMs, perhaps Dario and Altman do care for humanity and are definitely not trying to just make profit and I am…
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As Von Neumann said about Oppenheimer's performative angst over the atomic bomb:"Some people profess guilt to claim credit for the sin."
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The mea culpas are quite exhausting too."Oh no this thing I gained generational wealth from is going to destroy the world! I am so sorry!"
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> May 2023 — the founding text.We have been trying to warn you since far, far before May 2023.
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