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“Welfare systems for Humans are already a horrible idea welfare for AI models is DOUBLY idiotic”
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Mustafa Suleyman Author of the essay, Microsoft AI CEOAnthropic AI developer, publisher of Claude's constitutionClaude AI model referenced as case study
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3 outlets A warning about ‘model welfare’
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Birch, The Edge of Sentience (2024), ch. 16 - "simply no way to assess sentience in an LLM"Schwitzgebel, AI and Consciousness (2025) - "we won't know before we've already manufactured thousands or millions of disputably conscious AI".Butlin, Long et al., Consciousness in Artificial Intelligence: Insights from the Science of Consciousness (2023) -…
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A warning about 'model welfare' L: https:// mustafa-suleyman.ai/a-warning- about-model-welfare C: https:// news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4 9727580 posted on 2026.09.16 at 10:27:47 (c=0, p=3)
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Welfare systems for Humans are already a horrible idea welfare for AI models is DOUBLY idiotic
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I don't whether the author is sentient, maybe only I am. On that basis, nobody but me should have rights.I don't know if next door's pet dog is either, but that has animal rights.Perhaps then the answer is simply, show some respect.Answering the question of sentience is irrelevant, if the causal impact if the same, treat one another with the…
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It is interesting to see that in a time when a lot of people accept the theory of materialism for the human brain (i.e the view that everything is physical and the mind is a product of brain), the same people tend to have a "hidden" dualist view on LLMs. Suddenly, they claim that what happens in the brain cannot be replicated anywhere else because…
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Hard to disagree with this. Have all the philosophical debates about consciousness you want, but we need to treat and regulate the AI in front of us for what it is – an advanced computer, a tool, a weapon.You wouldn’t feel a different way about a nuclear bomb just because someone stuck googly eyes on it.Anthropomorphizing the AI is a convenient…
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>AIs are not conscious. They do not feel, experience, or suffer. They do not have innate preferences or underlying motivations.Opening paragraph, stated without evidence. Im not entirely convinced this is true. It likely is, but at some point it very well might stop being true.
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Look, I do not have a scooby if current AI models are conscious and I strongly suspect it’s a meaningless question, but sooner or later we will need to address whether or not a certain thing is or isn’t a person, and we’d better not screw it up as badly as the Founding Fathers.
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Create an empirically testable theory of biological consciousness and then we can have a meaningful conversation about whether AIs can also have it or not. Until then, this is just so much waffle.
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