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Commenters questioned whether Astra for Law is actually better than rivals on legal benchmarks, whether OpenAI's inclusion of Harvey and Legora in its launch post was meant to preempt fears it is competing with its own ecosystem partners, and whether AI drafting is trustworthy without a human lawyer checking it.
“Astra for Law is slightly less than Claude and Muse... a clear ~6-point step ahead of the next model.”
nerevarthelameJason Boehmig OpenAI legal product leadSherwin Wu OpenAI member of technical staffLewis Bretts Founder of Telon, OpenAI legal partnerMax Junestrand Legora executiveOpenAI Developer of Astra for Law
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first by Moneycontrol, 7d ago · also Tech in Asia, Artificial Lawyer, Neowin, SiliconANGLE, RuntimeWire, OpenAI +3
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- OpenAI Launches Astra For Law Artificial Lawyer · 7d ago
- OpenAI launches Astra for Law with legal search across 230 million sources Neowin · 7d ago
- OpenAI launches Astra for Law, a GPT-6 configuration for legal research SiliconANGLE · 7d ago
- OpenAI Introduces Astra for Law With Legal Search and Trusted Access Unite.AI · 7d ago
- OpenAI launches Astra for Law with a 230 million-URL search index RuntimeWire · 7d ago
- OpenAI launches Astra for Law, combining GPT-6 Astra with a legal search index and instructions for legal analysis and writing, initially for select law firms OpenAI · 7d ago
- OpenAI brings GPT-6 Astra to legal industry with tools for law firms Indian Express · 7d ago
- OpenAI takes aim at the legal market with Astra for Law The Decoder · 6d ago
- OpenAI Launches Astra for Law: Legal AI Gets a Specialized Research Engine TechRepublic · 6d ago
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first by Business Standard, 7d ago · also ABA Journal, The Hindu, Channel News Asia, Reuters
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- OpenAI introduces new AI model for law firms ABA Journal · 7d ago
- OpenAI launches legal-focused AI platform, escalating race for law firm users The Hindu · 7d ago
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2 outlets Astra for Law
first by HN Best, 7d ago · also HN Frontpage
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first by Business Insider, 7d ago
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JUST IN: OpenAI has launched Astra for Law, a GPT-6 configuration built specifically for legal research and drafting.
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surprised the word RAG hasn’t come ho in this thread (except for a likely-LLM-generated-and-therefore-downvoted comment).>with settings, tools, and contextcall me crazy, but I think that this kind of suite, which training-uber-alles people generally dismiss as trivially replicable ‘wrapper’ is actually the differentiating factor for LLM adoption…
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TL;DR: OpenAI has launched Astra for Law, a GPT-6 model specifically designed for legal applications, featuring a custom legal search index and tailored instructions for legal analysis and writing, marking a significant investment in the legal tech sector. https://www. lawnext.com/2026/09/openai-rel…
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I know someone who works in law and deals particularly with an area of US benefits and healthcare law. One of their workflows for lower-level employees at their firm involves taking in documents from healthcare plans and organizations, analyzing them for certain kinds of data, and then importing that data into an internal system they use to…
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OpenAI launches Astra for Law, and its own legal research index https:// thenextweb.com/news/openai-ast ra-for-law-gpt-6-legal-search-index?utm_source=flipboard&utm_medium=activitypub Posted into TNW - All Stories @ tnw-all-stories-thenextweb
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The most interesting part about this to me was how they bench/compare it, like in the example with Fable: "Given the same prompt, Astra for Law returned two closely matching precedents; in the litigation example, Claude Fable 5.1 returned a holding that had been reversed on appeal, while in the transactional example it reported finding no such…
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Astra for Law L: https:// openai.com/index/astra-for-law/ C: https:// news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4 9745940 posted on 2026.09.17 at 16:17:48 (c=2, p=8)
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I'm a lawyer myself.I see problems in LLMs doing research, making drafts, etc.I see 3 kinds of potential users.1. Non legal background people trying to avoid going to a lawyer. They should definitely NOT use an LLMs.2. Fresh out of law school graduates.They think they can do fast work, draft quick replies, do fast case research, enh. They should…
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Astra for Law Link: https:// openai.com/index/astra-for-law/ Discussion: https:// news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4 9745940
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Congratz to all the laywers that trained it and told OpenAI their business cases by using ChatGPT in their practice. You took the first step to make yourself obsolete.Snarky comment I know, but I believe that is some truth to it. We SOftware Engineers are equally "being used", especially the Open Source contributors.I personally only use open…
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Lawyer here (non practicing so to be clear none of this affects me):most comments I read here don't seem to realize that different areas of law have very very different economic models and don't even mention which one they think will be affected or why, they just sort of lump it all together.For example: It is highly unlikely llms will have any…
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I'm not familiar with the Vals AI Legal Research Benchmark. But their website has other frontier models' scores, and "Astra for Law" is slightly less than Claude and Muse:> The top is a three-way tie: Muse Spark 1.3 Max, Claude Opus 5, and Claude Fable 5.1 all reach 55.29% all-pass accuracy, a clear ~6-point step ahead of the next model. [Astra…
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> They recently bought a Claude subscription and began using Claude to do the initial read of the documents and output JSON they can import into their internal systems. The work still must be reviewed by an attorney - Claude is nowhere near making the kinds of judgments a lawyer would make about this content - but it has increased their throughput…
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I wouldn't trust any output from Astra unless they have not nerfed instances ringfenced for that task.Tried again a simple coding task with Astra maxed out. I did it only partially, left memory leak and hanging pointer. Sol spotted are errors immediately. I put findings of Sol to Astra and it only done partial fix with the rest claiming will…
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> The need for actual lawyers will persist I think from my own experience.The outcome of a case should not depend on one's ability to recall facts or convince other people or point their index finger and shout OBJECTIONLaw should generally be deterministic. One's CHA stat should have no bearing on justice.There should still be human judges, but…
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LLMs are the first genuinely useful legal tech since the Internet. I'm pretty shocked, though, at the delta between how competent Claude is on code versus legal work. It's good for research and data organization, but terrible for drafting. I wonder if this is a structural problem with the lack of feedback loops. In law, there's no compiler to…
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Max Junestrand has consistently said Legora treats the model layer as swappable, selecting across frontier providers rather than building the product around one.OpenAI didn't need to name Legora and Harvey in the second paragraph of the launch post.They are pre-empting the obvious interpretation of Astra for Law: that moving this far up the legal…
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The need for actual lawyers will persist I think from my own experience. I attempted drafting a contract with some points myself using AI, but after several edits I wasn't sure if it was correct. Sending it to an actual lawyer ended up in so many corrections I couldn't imagine the first time. One big thing was the overly excessive protective…
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What we contributed to Reddit and Arxiv voluntarily before, what we contribute as traces right now are all being used to build business verticals by OpenAI and Anthropic. All these business verticals are being used for is more trace collection which would only strengthen these models and render most humans useless because the ceiling for 1000…
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An important take-away from this is the harness is really important. The graphs show that the same model with a better harness performs many percentage points better. OpenAI are getting into the "selling the harness" game in a big way. Why?What's interesting about that is while not everybody can train or run a model, anybody can build a harness…
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So OpenAI is partnering with Latham Watkins, Freshfields is partnering with Anthropic and Kleiner Perkins is building their own. It'll be interesting to see which wins out here, I don't see how those partnerships can end well for the law firms unless they're making an assumption they'll be sucked dry of USP but the revenue split from the AI labs…
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yeah, i think this is probably the more interesting use case. i do a bunch of boring data wrangling as a solo dev and the amount of time that disappears into "read this thing, find these 5 bits, put them somewhere else" is ridiculous. if you're going from 2-3 docs/hr to 8-10, even with someone checking the result, that's a pretty substantial…
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I find the watermarking dynamic to be really interesting in the legal space, as more large model providers provide increasingly powerful legal capabilities, and adoption (presumably) also increases. Attorneys aren’t the same as developers as their work can be traced back to them, and there are personal bar licenses and reputations at stake. I…
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I was in a similar situation and tried a different approach.I had start with asking for a contact with some details I provided. But then I ask the model to be an experienced corporate lawyer and ask me a series of questions to gather the details it needed and then write the contract. The result covered a lot of details that were highly relevant…
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