Commenter identifies potential error in article's examples
2 Sep 18 4:54 AM · 5d ago · 5 comments · 1 source · development 2 of 4
Commenter kgeist noted that the article's claim that Greek μύρμηξ (ant) has no Indo-European etymology appears incorrect, presenting evidence of cognates across multiple Indo-European language families suggesting an alternative explanation involving sound changes rather than substrate borrowing.
“Greek murmēx could be an assimilation murw- => murm-, and Latin had dissimilation morm- => form-”
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>Words borrowed from a Pre–Indo-European language into Mediterranean languages> [...] Greek μύρμηξ mýrmēx ‘ant’, Latin formicaMust be an error: Proto-Celtic *morwos Proto-Balto-Slavic: *marwis Proto-Indo-Iranian: *marwiš Proto-Germanic: *mauraz Old Armenian: mrǰimn Greek murmēx could be an assimilation murw- => murm-, and Latin had dissimilation…
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From what I understand, and I might be oversimplifying here; many of the differences between Indo-European languages today are a result of the languages that were there before. So the reason Proto-German and Latin were different is in part because of the pre-IE languages in each of those regions. But we don’t have a ton of information on those…
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One aspect the article seems to overlook is Albanian. Since Albanian is a unique branch of Indo-European, descending from the Paleo-Balkan linguistic world and developed in the same broader region, it would be interesting to see whether the non-Greek substrate vocabulary found in Ancient Greek has been systematically compared with Proto-Albanian…
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Even for a non-linguist like myself, the article didn't feel right. I expected to find more information about the Thracians, who inhabited those lands for quite some time and left some extraordinary (albeit non-written) heritage.
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Plato wrote about a lot of these kinds of words in the dialogue Cratylus. The dialogue is about more than just etymology, of course, but it’s worth looking at if the subject is interesting to you.
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