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AI chatbots now out-persuade humans in debates, research shows
HN commenters debate the source of chatbot persuasiveness
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Sep 18 10:18 AM
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Commenters propose competing explanations: chatbots' patience and lack of ego, their non-human status removing tribal stakes, their ability to flood a discussion with large volumes of (sometimes fabricated) supporting examples, and RLHF training that may optimize for convincing rhetoric over accuracy.
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“In an honest discussion there's an assumption that the other person won't straight up lie to me so if someone shows me ten examples for why my argument is wrong I may be inclined to believe them.”
probably_wrong
Luciano Floridi Philosopher cited in the science.org article Terra Blevins Northeastern Khoury College professor Heather Littlefield Northeastern linguistics professor Sofia Teixeira Professor, Northeastern Network Science Institute London
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I think it's not just the persuasiveness of the models that make them "experts at changing minds" - but also the fact that they're not humans.When disagreeing with a human, it's very easy to view it as a competition. One is right, one is wrong - the one who is wrong is the loser. To change your mind is to be submissive to the other. I exaggerate…
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More surprised they don't mention RLHF once, as that's the main mechanism to the ability of AI chatbots.
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