Google Mobile Services licensing constraints likely necessitate third-party arrangement
3 Sep 22 2:20 PM · 1d ago · 1 post · 8 comments · 2 sources · development 3 of 3
Community discussion identified that Motorola's Google Mobile Services certification agreements probably prevent them from selling devices with uncertified Android builds, explaining why a third party must handle the GrapheneOS preinstallation.
“I presume this bit is because Motorola can't sell devices with android builds that aren't certified by google (as per Google Mobile Services contracts)”
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The problem with those free OS is that they usually work on top models which cost like 4 ordinary smartphones. It is experimental software that doesn't work perfectly, and it makes no sense to pay that much for it. So with high prices they are push away potential users.Also, I would like no DRM, no serial id, no support for device verification, no…
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>Probably not via their website but rather another company provided with the devices directly by Motorola. It could be us doing it ourselves but we aren't set up to deal with it.I presume this bit is because Motorola can't sell devices with android builds that aren't certified by google (as per Google Mobile Services contracts)
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I'd love to see the GrapheneOS team gaining enough resources to hire developers who can work to increase the number of supported devices. The more devices that are supported (even if security is not at the same level as Pixel/Motorola hardware), as the more popular GrapheneOS becomes, the harder it will be for governments to target it.
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Really excited about this! Google has truly fallen from grace with all their embrace, extend, extinguish.I do hope the Motorola's are a bit repairable though, e.g. no screen glue. Does seem the next phone choice will be between Motorola or Fairphone. Sucks one is likely to choose between security or repairability...
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Are there any GrapheneOS-capable devices that still have an SD card slot and a 3.5mm port? Bonus points if the battery is removable.I will also accept "Sending my consciousness back to my 2016 body." Better yet, 1996. Got some things I wanna fix.
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What I care about is banking app support. Both my credit unions (large, national ones) lock down their phones apps so they do not work on GrapheneOS. Yes, you can install certain Google packages to change that, but no guarantee that will work in the future.
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Devices are sold with GrapheneOS preinstalled, just not by GrapheneOS. If your paranoia needs aren't high but you just want to get away from Google, it seems like a good idea.
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Good. Though i hope i'll see GOS for the P11A (expecting it will come out) so i can upgrade my 8A.i really like the pixels, and haven't been fond of motorolas in recent years
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Will this solve the issue of Google withholding Android security updates to provide Pixel devices running stock early access to patches?
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I am not too sure about this. There is no company I trust to sell GrapheneOS-preinstalled phones other than GrapheneOS themselves.
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Will the pre-installed GrapheneOS phones still show up as "rooted" to things like Microsoft Authenticator?
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nicenow give me a device with a mechanical switch that gaps the radio power physically
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