Commenter questions whether the study accounts for market competition
2 Sep 21 1:22 AM · 5d ago · 1 post · 2 comments · 2 sources · development 2 of 3
An HN commenter argues that lottery-losing firms can't just hire market-rate US labor because they must still compete against lottery-winning firms with access to below-market-rate foreign labor, asking whether the economists addressed this dynamic.
“The firms who do not win the visa lottery "just become smaller firms" instead of hiring market-rate labor because they still have to compete in a market against other firms who won the visa lottery and have access to below-market-rate labor.”
fwlrMichael A. Clemens Study co-author, economistEthan G. Lewis Study co-author, economistUS Department of Labor Agency administering the H-2B visa lottery
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> "When policy is politically polarized, you need more facts," he said.Mmmm... It seems in the world of politics, esp. populist politics, more facts don't bring better policies. They are simply ignored, or accused of being lies pushed by the ennemies.> "We have all the facts on this we need. We don't need any more facts. In the land of truth, my…
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Winning the Visa Lottery L: https://www. aeaweb.org/research/immigratio n-restrictions-firms-workers C: https:// news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4 9782775 posted on 2026.09.20 at 23:37:02 (c=0, p=3)
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The firms who do not win the visa lottery “just become smaller firms” instead of hiring market-rate labor because they still have to compete in a market against other firms who won the visa lottery and have access to below-market-rate labor.Did the economists who ran this study miss this? Do they explain it?
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