Debate emerges over benchmark credibility and geopolitics
4 Sep 21 5:03 PM · 4d ago · 1 post · 3 comments · 2 sources · development 4 of 4
Commenters express skepticism about certain benchmark results while acknowledging the quality of Xiaomi's release strategy. Some speculate about motivations behind U.S. AI labs' calls for development slowdowns, linking them to competitive concerns about Chinese models.
“maybe this is why Dario want to slow down AI development and all the big AI labs in the USA is singing the same song…they are afraid of Chinese good enough LLM model killing their margin.”
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first by VentureBeat, 4d ago · also TestingCatalog AI News, RuntimeWire, Xiaomi, Latent Space
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- Xiaomi open-sources MiMo-V2.6 Pro and Flash models TestingCatalog AI News · 4d ago
- Xiaomi open-sources MiMo-V2.6 and the RL machinery behind it RuntimeWire · 4d ago
- Xiaomi debuts open-weight omnimodal models MiMo-V2.6 Pro and Flash; Pro allegedly performs “on par with Opus 5 and GPT-5.6 Sol across most agent benchmarks” Xiaomi · 4d ago
- [AINews] Xiaomi MiMo-V2.6-Pro 1T-A42B: the new top Open Weights model, trained for $3M Latent Space · 4d ago
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first by Artificial Analysis, 4d ago · also HN Frontpage
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- MiMo-v2.6-Pro: Intelligence, Performance and Price Analysis HN Frontpage · 4d ago
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1 outlet “Impressive level of openness”: Xiaomi goes way beyond the usual open-weight playbook with MiMo-V2.6
first by The New Stack, 2d ago
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Xiaomi MiMo-V2.6 from @XiaomiMiMo is live on OpenRouter. Three new models. A 1T+ parameter flagship, an open-source MoE, and a ~10x faster variant of the flagship. All three take text, image, video, and audio with 1M context. More in the thread 🧵
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I have done the same. I hesitated for way too long. I shouldn’t have.I get way more usage for way less money without any quality or performance degradation. My $200 Codex Pro plan allowance is depleted in 2-3 days. Sometimes Tibo announces a usage reset. But GPT-5.6 models are really not good for coding. Sol has been making increasingly more…
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MiMo-V2.6-Pro: Neues Modell führt Open-Weight-Ranking an Xiaomis MiMo-V2.6-Pro setzt sich in Benchmarks an die Spitze der Open-Weight-Modelle und ist zudem günstiger als ähnlich leistungsfähige offene Konkurrenz. https://www. heise.de/news/MiMo-V2-6-Pro-Ne…
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Xiaomi just dropped Mimo 2.6 Pro which claims to be the best open source model. I played with it, and was pretty impressed: - Insanely cheap: With some standard assumptions, its 15x cheaper than Kimi K3, 6x cheaper than GLM 5.3 and 2x cheaper than DeepSeek V4 and only 2x more expensive than DeepSe...
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Welcome to the dark side. I've been on Kimi, with a little DeepSeek-V4-Pro, GLM 5.2/5.3, and MiMo thrown in, for probably about a year now. It's great here!For DeepSeek, I recommend their Reasonix harness strongly, due to its alignment to DeepSeek's prefix cache. It means mostly (95%+) cache hit input tokens, so very cheap large-scale code…
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Xiaomi MiMo v2.6: https:// mimo.xiaomi.com/mimo-v2-6 Discussion: http:// news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4 9792730
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MiMo-V2.6-Pro debuts as the top open weights model on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index (46). At $0.13 per Intelligence Index task, it lands on the Intelligence vs. Cost per Task Pareto frontier @Xiaomi has just released MiMo-V2.6-Pro, an open weights model with major advances in intellig...
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Here's an image->html test for it using 2.6 Pro Ultraspeed, along with comparisons for grok 4.7 and Astra.Design: https://image.non.io/78795662-8bfc-4e14-8d72-3738392aa6b3.we...MiMo 2.6 Pro Ultraspeed (36min): https://html.non.io/annui-mimo/Grok 4.7 (25min): https://html.non.io/Annui-grok/Astra (19min): https://html.non.io/annui/Overall this felt…
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Xiaomi is contributing a LOT to open research with this release. All of their training run details are basically out there in the open — reward plots, hyperparameters, data mixtures, even costs. They also release a subset of their RL envs and a smaller model for people to play around with on mor...
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> got lots of clever behind the scene tricks like Google or Deepseek writeups) and benchmark scoresXiaomi MiMo is led by Luo Fuli, a former Alibaba & DeepSeek employee. Perhaps it is due to Luo just how similar Xiaomi's tech & GTM approach is to DeepSeek's.- How Luo Fuli Keeps an Earthy Touch as she Soars Through the AI World…
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How?!! Xiaomi has just released their new OPEN SOURCE model MiMo-V2.6-Pro: - multimodal text/image/audio/video - score ~ same as GPT-5.6-Sol Max - 9x cheaper input tokens - 23x cheaper output tokens 💀 Also about 20x cheaper than Opus 5... and the weights are already on Hugging Face. Hard to se...
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Mimo has been one of those models that I have been rooting for since the first I used it, the 2.5 pro which I have used quite a bit, was very concise, very aware of how much context needs to be read for which tasks and would always keep the context tight. Also surprisingly good at strategic thinking. I had published a comparison between it and…
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Alert: Xiaomi just open-sourced MiMo-V2.6. Two natively omnimodal models, Pro and Flash, under MIT license 🔥. Pro scores 46.32 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index, the highest of any open model to date. weights:
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Granted this is an awesome release and I loved watching the livestreamed RL dashboard, I found this message on the dashboard (https://mimo.xiaomi.com/rl/) quite funny:> we also removed the cyber dataset from the upcoming pro run, since we observed some bad patterns in the rollout logs.And this in the model card (emphasis mine):> Aligned RL: Cold…
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“We're open-sourcing Pro and Flash, MiMo-V2.6-Distill-Qwen-9B, the technical report, 7K+ RL task environments, an end-to-end RL framework and composable mini-harnesses.” wow 🔥
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I was absolutely mind blown when I saw how they were publishing that training dashboard while US models publish 100s of pages of reports (just provide a "copy as MD" button, folks, in the future). I was thinking about doing something similar but did not know how to show it, and this is a perfect example for someone who wants to show whatever they…
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Real open model nerds knew Xiaomi is cooking with MiMo! An open RL dashboard for the top scoring open model is aura. [image] [embedded post]
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is there a good metric of model degredation over time?Im a bit lazy and only use the free models different companies host and the biggest difference i see is that some models (Gemini, OpenAI) get progressively stupid in long chats. You end up having to start a new session every oncr in a while. Or they get really hung up on a theme and cant shift…
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Xiaomi MiMo v2.6 Pro is the best open weight model in the world, almost on par with GPT 5.6 Sol (max)!
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It feels suspicious that MiMo-V2.6 Pro gets 46 in de index while DeepSeek-V4.1 (https://artificialanalysis.ai/models/deepseek-v4-1-flash) gets 39. According to the appendix at the bottom of https://mimo.xiaomi.com/mimo-v2-6 the deepseek model sometimes surpasses mimo and it's not so far behind in capabilities. A week ago opus 5 appeared 1 points…
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Are people using MiMo models as their daily drivers in a company setting? If so, how? I know they're available over OpenCode and directly from Xiaomi, but those are not great options. OpenCode Go straight up doesn't give any guarantees about training on your data, and Xiaomi says that they won't but it's unclear.With some models you can find…
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It is an impressive model. Agreed on most that is written on this page, with the exception of it being fast. I ran it on my own LLM benchmark suite[1] and it is faster than DeepSeek but still much slower than leading models. But it's pricing is where it really shines.KillSwitch-Bench 1.0 Claude Opus 5 66.9 GPT-6 Astra 57.9 Claude Fable 5.1 46.7…
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Please, think about the american companies! If we don't protect them, when they go broke (because they will, it will be the perfect triple dip) and we bail them with american taxes we will have paid twice for all the work they had already stealed (not my words, this is a microsoft anti-ai exec...)Twice, trice or quadrix(tm) are just…
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Pelicans for Flash: https://tools.simonwillison.net/markdown-svg-renderer?url=ht...Pelicans for Pro:
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