Shift to be central topic at UN General Assembly this week
2 Sep 22 · 1d ago · 1 post · 1 source · development 2 of 3
The Atlantic notes that the theme of finding alternatives to Washington will likely dominate discussions at the upcoming UN General Assembly, reflecting how widespread the allied recalibration has become.
Mark Carney Canadian Prime Minister
Donald Trump U.S. President
Xi Jinping Chinese PresidentKatherine Tai U.S. Trade Representative (Biden administration)
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Reactionary Republicans for decades have wanted to destroy the post-WWII international order. Trump is doing it, and the changes nations are making in response to him are going to be very hard to undo. Moreover, why should countries trust that Americans wouldn't elect a raging lunatic again? https://www. theatlantic.com/national-secur…
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Yeah I guess what we often forget is that history keeps going, we don’t really know what’ll happen. Whether the current spiral in America continues or it suddenly stops is anyone’s guess. I agree with you that it is entirely possible that America doesn’t spiral out of control farther and a reset happens. Or something close enough, or perhaps a…
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In 1917, as canadian troops fought at Vimy Ridge in northern France, Lieutenant Leslie Miller collected acorns from the battlefield and carried them home to Ontario. Saplings from the resulting oaks were sent back to France about a century later, and became a living link between the two countries. Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney recounted that…
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Our politicians are a dime a dozen, and each one is as slimy as the next. The ones that aren't are the ones that stick out like a sort thumb. IOW, the likelihood is that we will always have low life wretches surrounding the throne, willing to look the other way for a morsel or two of power. We cannot say that our actions are the result of a loose…
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The world is reducing its dependence on USA. This will come as news to the Irish government whose primary strategy is to open the doors to every Trojan horse available. The will be jobs for the lads dragging the horse in. There's the tax revenue; .01% on every hollow wooden horse. Wooden horse owners are welcome here too, where they can avail of…
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Knowing the next republican elected will certainly use those new powers, a democratic president would also be forced to use them as well. Otherwise they'd slowly build policies over 4 to 8 years only to have them immediately scrapped the next time a republican is elected. The effect of that is a ratcheting of US politics to the right where change…
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We keep posting this like it is true. They will come back the moment it is in their best interest, which will be immediately with a pending world War three. Im sorry to all the foreigners about the drama, but you're having "enough with the US" with just about the worst time ever in the past 80 years. Your leaders are gonna come back as soon as…
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Right, as history has shown, for longer than the U.S. has existed, Parliament will do what’s necessary for its own survival. There’s a reason the Magna Carta came into existence and the U.K. is a constitutional monarchy and it ain’t because they let the lunatics finish their job. As I said, first term, Trump showed who he was. No British party…
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He promised peace and prosperity. Me personally, I am all about results and don’t care about the dude’s charisma or how cool he is. When he promised peace and prosperity, I expect peace and prosperity. BUT NOO! The exact opposite happens, prices go up, American research is down, wages don’t go up, we drag on into a different war and gas is $5 a…
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Why would anyone wait around for him to leave if there is a strong chance that he will not be leaving office anytime soon? 2026 elections may result in a blue wave but what happens if/when those democrats decide to continue to sit on their hands? Or Trump decides with his immunity that he can violate any possible election laws or constitutional…
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After all that has happened the US and the EU are still eachothers biggest trading partners. The thing i am affraid of is that in a multi polar world the EU and the US will become rivals when it comes to rare materials. I still think the EU approach towards Russia was good on paper. By creating codependance you would assume this would work towards…
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again, you keep using the word duty or obligation. clearly, being different words, they do not mean the same as responsibility. But to drop calling it directly a responsibility since it seems to trip up the convo: so 1st - People ought to behave responsibly, and not voting is irresponsible when a criminal is running for election. anything you…
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One of the biggest reasons our allies were able to depend on us was our reliability. Since that's definitely gone, things will shift, and people like you will find out just how much more expensive maintaining control with just numbers, but without soft power is. That doesn't mean the US will be without influence, but if you believe things will…
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Yeah, it's volunteering for a politician's election campaign that made a friend of mine quit political activity altogether. His reason was that even if he liked the candidate and thought they were a good person, a bunch of people working on the campaign itself were using underhanded and hostile techniques to get the candidate ahead and he couldn't…
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But I remember feeling a turning point after the weak response to Russians full scale invasion of Ukraine. Which is why this isn't just a Trump problem. He wasn't even in office, but the GOP still was fighting to hold up aid in Congress at that point. Pretending this is just about one man misses the point.
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Sensible and overdue. Trump I could be dismissed as a fluke; Trump II can’t. An ally that can only be relied upon roughly half the time (assuming future Republican presidents take a similar dismal view of international obligations) can’t be relied on at all.
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The US basically abandoned Europe in the middle of a hot war with millions of casualties on its borders, threatened its allies with hostile takeover of territory and punishing tariffs. This is not business as usual, it's rightly the end of an era.
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Even our closest allies know we can no longer be trusted to act like responsible adults. Maga has proven to the entire world that the United States is always no more than 4 years away from potential corruption and aggressive, violent stupidity.
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I don't think that's true. Democrats will go right back to "decorum" because ultimately the establishment still serves the same donor class, and ultimately they like that everything is shifting further right as it directly benefits them.
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we are a society dedicated to a patriotism to money and personal gain vs betterment of a society. Ww1, Depression, WW2 and our post war industrial complex provide long shadows that were enhanced by hubris
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America being the top leader has gotten the world and us American citizens nothing of value. I’m fine with America losing a lot of its power if it means we become a better country.
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Haha I’m working in Canada at the moment and my coworkers have adopted the word fuckwit with such glee it’s quite endearing 😂 that orange fuckwit
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The Ukraine aid was during Biden.... how does that prove your point? Are you saying "American exceptionalism" is still alive and well?
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Isn’t this sort of what Trump has been pushing for. For Europe to invest in its own security instead of relying on the US for example.
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