3Sep 22 4:56 PM · 1d ago · 9 comments · 1 source · development 3 of 5
In response to comparisons with Mullvad, dongcarl (an Obscura team member) explained the distinction as a Multi-Party Relays system where no single entity can be trusted to remain uncompromised, contrasting with traditional single-party VPNs.
“We're a Multi-*Party* Relays (vs. traditional VPNs which are Single-Party Relays)… With Multi-Party Relays you no longer have a trust a single entity not being malicious or compromised.”
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ObscuraVPN service providerMullvadExit hop operator and privacy-focused VPN partnerdongcarlObscura team member
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We think Mullvad is a great privacy tool, which is why we partnered with them!As for what's different: We're a Multi-*Party* Relays (vs. traditional VPNs which are Single-Party Relays): https://www.privacyguides.org/articles/2024/11/17/where-are-...With Multi-Party Relays you no longer have a trust a single entity not being malicious or…
As others have pointed out, this is like Apple iCloud Private Relay, and other multi-hop privacy systems that have been built on and off over the last several decades (Tor included).We wrote a research paper on the general principle a few years ago:
https://obscura.com/check/ does this page know the difference between a direct mullvad user and an obscura user, if so, how?Packet padding but no docs about this?
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48696800This is where part of your money flows to (I have opinions about this).Not sure if you are also aware of it.