Strike organizers warn of gradual conscription reintroduction
2 Sep 25 · 6d ago · 3 articles · 3 posts · 2 comments · 3 sources · development 2 of 2
Bela Breitner, from School Strike Against Compulsory Military Service, said the federal government was planning to gradually reintroduce mandatory service. 16-year-old protester Elias Bernhard stated questionnaire responses show young people do not want to join the Bundeswehr.
“serious about gradually reintroducing compulsory military service”
Bela Breitner
Friedrich Merz German ChancellorBela Breitner Strike organizer, School Strike Against Compulsory Military ServiceElias Bernhard 16-year-old protester, Hamburg
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first by BBC, 6d ago · also Goshen News, Anadolu Ajansı, Anadolu Agency
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- Germany Protest Military Goshen News · 6d ago
- German students take to the streets against compulsory military service plans Anadolu Ajansı · 6d ago
- Students strike across Germany against military service Mastodon · 4d ago
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first by vreme.com, 6d ago · also Al Jazeera
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- Tens of Thousands Protest German Conscription Plans تسنیم · 6d ago
- Thousands of students protest German military conscription Mastodon · 4d ago
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Schoolchildren in Germany protest against conscription Nationwide protests by schoolchildren against the possible introduction of compulsory military service took place in Germany. According to the organizers, the protests were held in more than 100 cities and drew more than
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The state pension in Germany isn't good. Anyone who is stuck on just state pensions is not well off. All the lovely bAV pensions have been phazed out by most companies and the companies that have them still are a shadow of what they once were. Civil servants are fully protected though. Also most people in Germany do not work the full 45 years…
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Surprise! German students do not want to die in their politicians' wars. "German students take to the streets against compulsory military service plans": https://www. aa.com.tr/en/europe/german-stu dents-take-to-the-streets-against-compulsory-military-service-plans/4069445
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This. We now live in neo-feudalism and the same relation to military service applies. Nobody tried to conscript serfs until 19th century, and the attempt was followed by the Springtime of the Peoples. Under feudalism the only people who can accept the risk of military service are the elites. The billionaires. The serfs will instead violently…
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Having mandatory service will not save you from being invaded by Russia. Ukraine had mandatory service and still got invaded. The only real solution is nukes, no country with nukes gets invaded and all powers basically never talk about invading a country with nuclear weapons. But interestingly it’s not that much talked about. I guess politicians…
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My perspective comes from having survived the siege of Sarajevo. None of the things you are talking about matter if you are dead in a ditch somewhere. Also if by any chance I’m home when the enemy strikes, I can defend myself, surrender, try to hide or run away, I can even off myself, there are options, but I’m sure as hell not going to the front…
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here's a thought: maybe we stop pretending that geopolitical conflicts need to be solved by the poorest and most disenfranchised citizens of either side killing each other until someone runs out of bodies. That's a lofty goal that falls apart as soon as a single enemy decides "oh sending my poorest and disenfranchised citizens to kill them sounds…
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If Germany and our allies are attacked (because we didn't manage to build up a sufficient deterrence) and a war happens, why would you prefer to be send to the front with only a few weeks of crash course instead of multiple months of basic military training and training for a specific assignment? How would that be safer for the untrained soldier?
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Previous generations were treated as people, and were motivated to fight for the freedoms and everything else they got to enjoy. Millennials onwards can more than stand up for themselves. The question is, why would they stand up for their country that has thus far treated them like absolute dogsh*t?
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The thing is, right now, Russians aren't there, and with how Ukraine is going for them, it's unlikely they will ever be here at all. But the cost of living, job security, housing, healthcare, and pensions ARE here already, and they WILL be worse with time. So, do the math.
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There are not enough professionals because there is a lack of military culture that makes the service look cool. And speaking from my personal experience, everyone from my school who went to the military, which was a pretty good handful, all went to the officer academy.
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...your point is because young people chose to care about elder people in times of a pandemic, that the logical consequence is them also dying for them in a war they don't want? That's gotta be the most stupid shit I've read all week. Thanks for that.
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Funny, you sound to me like you fell for some propaganda as well and should step out of your bubble. Who is the bigger internal threat: rich elites avoiding taxes and giving shits on climate or immigrants falling into criminalizing poverty?
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No its not, like many pointed out, plenty state with high taxation and people doing military service. Is about IF the state get perceived as helpful and supportive it not; Germany has focus for years on austerity, and people are piss off.
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If everyone able to fight just flees, what then? A few superpowers gobbling up the smaller countries, until there are none left to grab. I don't see how, for example, Finland could defend itself with voluntary or professional army.
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The US with all its problems going on is at least not ran by cowards and weaklings. If Trump and Hegseth (and Rubio etc) are not "cowards and weaklings" in your eyes, you should get your eyes checked.
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Students, military service is going to be your least problem when you finally realize that you won’t be able to make a living with your jobs that you will be working, provided you will have found any.
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Yeah, I never understood this argument against mandatory service. Not having mandatory service will not increase your chance of avoiding the war. It basically employs the logic of superstition.
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Ukrainians are facing genocide if they lose, because Russians don't consider them - and them specifically - people. They're fighting for survival. This is not the same.
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As a German, I don't care. But I won't die for my country. Because as an atheist i do believe I just have this one life so dieing for something is truly stupid.
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Because young people have been standing up for themselves, and becaude they refuse to be taken advantage of, older generations take that as being lazy.
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Factually false based on history. Actively preparing for war makes war more likely. See WW1 and how early mobilizations made war impossible to avoid
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It is morally wrong to force people into the army, if they think their country is not worth defending then it is their government fault.
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ah yes the 'Why die for Danzig/Plutot Hitler que le Front populaire' crowd. Why take any measures when we can appease the fascists?
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