Reddit users challenge Nadella's framing and defend layoff necessity
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Discussion on Reddit splits between those who argue massive layoffs were necessary to correct years of mismanagement and those who criticize Microsoft's lack of empathy and question whether layoffs alone can fix Xbox's profitability and growth challenges.
“Nobody can look at Xbox the last 5-7 years and argue that mass layoffs weren't necessary. So many bankrolled studios that couldn't produce a single profitable game.”
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Satya Nadella Microsoft CEO
Asha Sharma Xbox CEO
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1 outlet Amid mass Xbox layoffs, Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella says the "streamlining" is "great to see"
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Microslop CEO Satya Nadella on recent Xbox layoffs: "The streamlining is great to see, I think Asha and team have said that Xbox is going to get growth this next fiscal year.” https://www. gamesradar.com/games/amid-mass -xbox-layoffs-microsoft-ceo-satya-nadella-says-the-streamlining-is-great-to-see/ # Microslop # Microsoft # Xbox # gaming #…
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Point 2 alone is worth the downvote. PC is growing into the biggest gaming market, and fast. It's been proceeding that way for years now. PC gamers are never going to buy a console just for 1-2 exclusives they actually want to play per year. Microsoft knows this, and so does Sony, which is why they tried marketing on PC themselves, but got too…
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I'd be shocked if most people here weren't using Windows. But as for the Xbox business specifically, you're right too I think: it seems like a bunch of people here are whining about them laying off employees and downsizing, but are these complainers actually Xbox customers themselves? It seems pretty asinine to stick up for laid-off employees when…
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Kinda enshittification, it’s enshittification as a result of punching above their weight, Gamepass was too good of a deal to be making money, I reckon they did it like that and wanted to operate at a loss in order to shake the industry and gear everything towards subscription services, for which they eventually made 2 purchases of the biggest…
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Isn’t Asha basically the new management? Wouldn’t some of these eliminated jobs include other levels of management? It’s very reductive to just think no low level employees should ever be laid off because they didn’t make the bad decisions that make their jobs economically unsustainable. People hate on management all the time but one of the…
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Can see Microsoft astroturfing on full display in this thread, comments bleating on about the same thing. The ‘bloat’ is all a result of their complete fucking ineptitude, they didn’t actually manage shit and was shocked when everything went wrong. Now he’s patting Asha on the back for firing thousands of people and not even a fucking hint of…
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Yeah no shit people are going to lose their jobs when they run a franchise into the ground while being given blank checks, it actually takes effort to financially ruin a franchise whose audience is mainly ball and gun gamers. The games industry is fucked these last years with a lot of examples of unjust layoffs, but Halo Studios isn't one of them.
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Growth as in profit. They ain't growing anything. In saying that profit is something like 3%. Its nearly better to put your money in long term deposits. Plus the loss leader years when it was released. I was an Xbox and PC gamer for years. I havent touched my Xbox for near 2 years except to patch and install games for my friends kids.
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Because of Azure and Surface which Ballmer got started. He pushed for Microsoft to take the hardware and cloud side of the business seriously even though the board was against it. They wanted for companies to keep buying their server OS and do their own hosting but Steve pivoted to pushing as much as he could to the cloud.
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It was/is a lose-lose situation. Halo Studios was clearly incapable making a good game (a sad trend with all the new studios Xbox made since the One came out). But removing a dedicated team from behind Halo means the IP is in a limbo now where burying it forever will become easier than ever.
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Nobody can look at Xbox the last 5-7 years and argue that mass layoffs weren't necessary. So many bankrolled studios that couldn't produce a single profitable game (or game at all) despite years of lucrative funding and lots of "creative space" to do what they wanted.
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They're so detached they don't see employees as people, just numbers, a cost-to-company. Because of that, they think people are fungible - the two who were actually let go were - in their minds - equivalent to the two whom you were forced to pick.
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It's kind of hard to read because Microsoft doesn't treat AI as its own layer but I'm willing to bet that AI gives them a better ROI than Xbox does. Timing is likely coincidental, Xbox has had issues for at least a decade (if not longer) now.
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"I think Asha and team have said...". Imagine any manager as work saying that when they are supposed to know why teams under them are doing what they are doing. "i think my generals said we will take kyiv in 3 days" - Putin 2022. Probably.
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i think capitalism is a coercive force, people make coercive decisions under capitalism, and people's worst impulses are brought to the surface under capitalism. if we removed that puzzle piece, people have incredible ability to improve.
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I'm saying I agree with you too. But MS doesn't. We will have to see what the new CEO does. The bad thing is we are dealing with the consequences from Phil. It will be awhile before we can judge if this was needed or just dumb.
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I know this will be buried but notice how he doesn't say they aren't profitable? They are, just not growing as fast as he demands. Kills me to see a profitable division be upended because the growth isn't fast enough.
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Handing over yet another American industry, even if it's mostly in name, to foreign industries is not the solution to the problem. Only Japanese shareholders could possibly want LESS consoles and less competition
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There’s a Happy Wheels game on my phone. Ads pop up every few deaths. There’s an option to remove ‘em for $2. Prolly gonna be something like that in some of the free games in the Microsoft store.
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the only reductive thinking here is trying to link everything back to your silly muh gapitalische """argument""". occam's has it such that you're dealing with fundamentally evil, selfish people.
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Everything that has come out of MS in the last 5-10 years has sucked ass, why are people surprised of layoffs? Try sucking at your job as much as them, tell me how long your company keeps you.
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For instance you can access a list of all the roles that were laid off in the state of Texas, that includes id Software and BGS. That was not simplifying layers of upper management at all.
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Xbox isn’t going to grow. They need quality first party games, something we have yet to see if a very long time. Asha is a non gamer, her opinion about games doesn’t hold any weight.
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An AI could have written a better response. At least throw in a "unfortunately we had to make difficult decisions to return the business to growth" or something. Come on.
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