Analyst documents broader pattern of smart home product shutdowns
1 Sep 27 8:00 AM · 2d ago · 1 article · 3 posts · 4 sources · development 1 of 1
Jennifer Pattison Tuohy published an analysis identifying at least eight major smart home products that have lost cloud support in the past two years: Nest Secure, early Nest Thermostats, Belkin WeMo, Neato robot vacuums, Brava smart oven, Logitech Pop buttons, Bose SoundTouch speakers, and Sengled smart bulbs. Some devices degraded to basic function while others became e-waste.
“The shutdown of June Oven is just another reminder that the cloud was never ours to keep.”
Jennifer Pattison TuohyWeber June Oven ownerJennifer Pattison Tuohy Tech columnist, The Verge
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The smart home has reached a tipping point. Early Nest Thermostats, Belkin’s WeMo line, Logitech’s Pop buttons, and Bose’s SoundTouch speakers all lost their lifelines. While some were saved by local APIs and protocols, most are like the June Oven, destined to live out their days in a zombie state.
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My house has smart light switches. They use ancient technologies of injection molding and metal wires. Their firmware has not needed an update and I haven't had to reboot them; they also recover instantly from power failures. I haven't measure their boot time but it's impressive. Probably 1/50 seconds is my guess, based on the AC switching…
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The shutdown of June Oven is just another reminder that the cloud was never ours to keep.
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You can get that exact same experience with Zigbee/z-wave smart switches. I have 74 of them in my house (replaced them all when I moved in) and haven’t had to think about them past that. They work by flipping the switch, they work by voice (Alexa), and via HA and anything that can talk to HA.If HA goes down I can just walk over and use the switch…
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I want appliances that are reliable and last a lifetime, I don't care about smart features. I bought a basic washing machine back in 2005. Roper brand, which is Whirlpool's value-priced line. The cycles are programmed purely mechanically using a cam timer.Since I've owned it, all I've had to do is replace the clutch which was like a $25 part at…
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> Home Assistant won't read the state of them so they're lacking in integration, but the plus was that caused me to not set up Home Assistant. Not making a fragile computer a single point of failure and not tying my whole house to one shared-fate system with all the failure modes of a small scale full stack SaaS gave me a couple more nines of…
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Imo, the problem with most smart kitchen devices has always been that the added benefit was never big enough to warrant the steep prices.The June oven had computer vision to detect the food and probes to test for internal temperature and could tell the user when their food was ready.Maybe nice for a restaurant juggling dozens of dishes in ovens…
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I was (naively, looking back) pretty bullish on smart home devices. Automating schedules, presence detection, etc. Every time I looked to invest more into it, the marketplace felt like a minefield of e(ventual)-waste and headache.I still struggle with it. It feels like a missed opportunity these days, but I just don’t trust companies to treat me…
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Recently sold a "Google (Nest) Home Audio" device after it failed to accomplish very basic tasks like "turn on the light". I wanted to get rid of it as soon as possible before it's completely useless. Like, it would succeed about 20% of the time on a good day. That number used to be 80%-90%.I wonder if I live in an alternate universe because I am…
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> Not making a fragile computer a single point of failureYou can set it up in a way that it does work without it but can be enhanced with it. Some zigbee switch work like that (Like the Aqara one).Also, Home Assistant is the most rock-solid piece of software I ran in a long time, it just never breaks for me
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I simply won’t install anything that doesn’t support a local API. Happy to pay for the hardware; but if your plan is to monetize it via cloud services somehow, or just assume planned obsolescence, I’m not your customer.
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Not to mention the sheer reliability (uptime) of the LCPT (legacy copper plastic technology) switches. We're talking like 99.999% uptime here.
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The only device I will connect to my home network, is anything that works with Home Assistant.
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