Tech outlets and aggregators pick up the Fortune story
3 Oct 30 7:26 AM · 13d ago · 1 article · 1 post · 2 sources · development 3 of 3
Tom's Hardware, India Today, and Google News syndications republished and reframed the Fortune report, with Tom's Hardware emphasizing the 24-month timeline and India Today framing it as Cisco rewriting 'all' of its code.
Jeetu Patel Cisco President and Chief Product OfficerPadmanabhan Krishnamurthy ('Paddy') 27-year-old Cisco engineer, ex-founder of EzDubsBaya Stanford scholarship student turned Cisco intern
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first by Mastodon, 13d ago · also HN Best, HN Frontpage, Tom's Hardware
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- Cisco gives engineer unlimited AI tokens to rewrite legacy code HN Best · 13d ago
- Cisco gives engineer unlimited AI tokens to rewrite 98% of the company's code HN Frontpage · 13d ago
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It’s a bold strategy, Cotton. Let’s see if it pays off for them. https://www. tomshardware.com/tech-industry /big-tech/cisco-gives-27-year-old-engineer-unlimited-ai-tokens-to-rewrite-98-percent-of-the-companys-legacy-code-in-24-months-president-plucks-former-startup-founder-telling-him-to-go-nuts
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We just recently use Claude Code to port an old Coldfusion site to Java Spring and it went amazingly well. It's around 50K lines of Java, one of our engineers did it in his spare time over about a week, using the $200/mo Claude plan. We had been talking about doing it for at least the last dozen years but never found the time. It would have taken…
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I didn't think you wanted me to fail. But I get where you're coming from, I am blessed with some work mates who have let these tools take their performance to the next level but I also have some who use it as an excuse to phone it in a bit. I'm sorry you have to deal with that too, it can be incredibly frustrating. Like most technology, it has a…
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"Translate an early edition of War and Peace into modern English." LLMs are great at this. But converting existing text isn't authorship of a masterpiece, and porting 40-year-old legacy code isn't invention. Refactoring legacy systems using existing logic as a blueprint is valuable syntax translation, not 40 man-years of original engineering…
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"Where there's no sense, there's no feeling". The words, I am told, of my father's maternal grandmother. It is strange to feel such an intense kinship and to inhabit so closely the mind space of a woman who I have never met.Perhaps I'm merely feeling my age. But while I suspect Cisco will eventually be disappointed, my emotional state remains a…
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There's a lot of jobs robots can't do. Either way, obviously, many will go unemployed, as already happens in many countries, especially across the third world, and will have to scramble to gather whatever scraps they can to make living out of. It's not an endorsement, it's just the logical consequence of capitalism's inevitable advance. What do…
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The CEO of Cisco is a fucking pervert chud. ""Tension is good.... I actually try to create tension in the teams because you want to have enough friction on the ideas. You don't want to have friction with the people and personalities." https://www. tomshardware.com/tech-industry…
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> I see some of the best ideas coming from the younger generation that have not yet been in the job market.The views of these business leaders betray their own lack of vision, they are barking up the wrong tree.The ability to think differently is not the preserve of the young. Instead of only hiring a bunch of greenhorns they should identify and…
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Our software has a fair amount of bugs that users considered to be features or went unfixed so long that users would complain about the changed behavior if they were fixed. Unleashing an AI on it would cause so many problems. Not to mention how hard it is to test end-to-end use cases to make sure a fix didn't break things waaaay downstream in our…
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@ ludicity have you seen this? https://www. tomshardware.com/tech-industry /big-tech/cisco-gives-27-year-old-engineer-unlimited-ai-tokens-to-rewrite-98-percent-of-the-companys-legacy-code-in-24-months-president-plucks-former-startup-founder-telling-him-to-go-nuts Total # AI psychosis. I honestly thought it was an Onion article when I first saw the…
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Not something at Cisco scale. But a co-founder and I, rewrote a dating app we had written in Ionic/Angular/SpringBoot/Postgres to React-Native/NextJS/Supabase in two weeks, and released it without the users/paid subscribers not knowing what happened, but they were happy to see the new slick/faster interface.We had developed the original app in…
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Unlimited Tokens. I regularly get blocked at work for exceeding our unlimited token policy to build sample quick start environments for our team to learn from and train an AI to build environments more efficiently. Got our deployment time down from hours to under 30 seconds, but it does take an hour to get the underlying infra up and running.
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The first thing should be design a decent fscking rack kit and an algorithm to place the fscking reset button in the right place… Cisco gives 27-year-old engineer unlimited AI tokens to rewrite 98% of the company's legacy code in 24 months — president plucks former startup founder, telling him to 'go nuts' https://www…
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Yeah - code rewrites are generally a thing to be avoided since the requirements of older production code is typically not fully documented, even if it originally had been. Production code accumulates bug fixes, performance tweaks, special cases, additional requirements, etc, with documentation and test suites not always being updated in sync.Your…
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Right but one of the things AI does really well is reading a lot of text way faster than any human can. Maybe the big AI revolution is, mainly, that no codebase can become obscure anymore, that with enough tokens thrown into it you can have code of any age and source documented and understood by the current team.
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Well last year round this time I took a knife but apparently also dodged a bullet. This is not a satirical website. https://www. tomshardware.com/tech-industry /big-tech/cisco-gives-27-year-old-engineer-unlimited-ai-tokens-to-rewrite-98-percent-of-the-companys-legacy-code-in-24-months-president-plucks-former-startup-founder-telling-him-to-go-nuts…
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This decision is about so many things except the code that it deserves some kind of award.Demonstrates fanatical devotion to capital’s golden idol - “yes, all of the code; yes, unlimited budget”. Doesn’t actually cost the company anything - only one engineer off task, any nuggets of value can be harvested as it progresses but any costs or big…
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Yes, the person steering it is the experienced engineer. An experienced engineer isn't just giving the model work and pushing it. The edge cases you talk about are something that exist that needs to be addressed whether you use AI or not. AI just gets you to the solution way faster.
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Tired: the internet is for porn Inspired: the internet is for incompetence porn https://www. tomshardware.com/tech-industry /big-tech/cisco-gives-27-year-old-engineer-unlimited-ai-tokens-to-rewrite-98-percent-of-the-companys-legacy-code-in-24-months-president-plucks-former-startup-founder-telling-him-to-go-nuts
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I agree with the sentiments that it important to understand the code during major refactoring projects. But what if while the code was being refactored the AI was asked in addition to keep a ledger of the changes it made and why. That ledger could be the basis of providing understanding to a code base that most likely had minimal corporate…
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I very much doubt this is going to be a single person project and the article is uh, taking some liberties. Or “legacy software” is doing some heavy lifting and the scope is not as wide as it is being made to seem.
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Translating from one language/platform to another is something AI is very very good at, so this sounds like a good use of it, bonus points if they create a comprehensive test suite first.Yes it will lead to new bugs, but the older code probably contains a ton of bugs already and is probably difficult to update (original writers long gone, docs out…
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The cost of AI tokens for this guy is a low risk investment. Smaller companies are already doing this. Rewriting products from scratch in the time it would take to plan and propose a legacy system modernization.
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I had Abliterated GLM pull one of the Core router firmwares and spent about $150 reverse engineering the BGP parsing code. It was pretty horrifying seeing all of that C/C++ emerge from Ghidra. However, it found nothing exploitable at all: the code seems to have been through so much trial by fire (including CVEs within the last few years) that they…
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