Commenters link result to open-model censorship concerns
3 Oct 31 8:42 PM · 11d ago · 4 comments · 1 source · development 3 of 4
Some HN commenters tied the result to broader worries about proprietary model providers restricting usage and about uncensored open weights being removed from hosting platforms.
“We desperately need to keep local models competitive with the hyper scalers. I won't want to be beholden to them and their whims forever.”
fedpost, HN commenter · hn ↗guregodevo Author/submitter of the Memdoor reproductionLee Author of the original GVS5H paper (2026)Fable 5 Proprietary model used as the comparison baselineQwen3.8-27B Open-weight model used in the five-agent team
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Remember those gpus into chips https://inference-docs.cerebras.ai/models/qwen-3.8-27b , where you have this chip that implements a model that run at those extremely high speeds... the ones that people ask "why do we need that"... if this is true... one of those chips with the correct harness is all that's needed to get fable like intelligence in…
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The nice thing is that current local modes don't go away. The weights are out. Qwen 27b and deepseek are already very useful. Hardware will keep getting stronger so after the current memory crisis you can run them more cheaply.Of course the proprietary models will continue to improve and we have no guarantee that there will be new open models. But…
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Wait and see, I give it fairly high odds everything tagged as 'uncensored' or 'abliterated' will get wiped from huggingface at some point in the future. The main barrier to wider spread adoption of this right now is that very few people have the legit on-prem hardware resources/budget to run something like an abliterated Q8 of deepseek v4.1 flash…
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We desperately need to keep local models competitive with the hyper scalers. I won't want to be beholden to them and their whims forever. With anthropic now restricting game reverse engineering I think we're about to cross a Rubicon of censorship.
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