Linuxiac details Kwi's features and clarifies it's not a Konsole replacement
2 Nov 1 4:08 AM · 10d ago · 1 post · 1 source · development 2 of 2
Linuxiac's coverage summarized Kwi's technical advantages — Wayland fractional scaling, Kitty image/keyboard protocols, Konsole color-scheme compatibility — and noted the project is still untagged at version 0.1, calling it an experiment and proposal rather than an official new direction for KDE.
Eike Hein KDE developer, creator of KwiGhostty project Upstream terminal library provider
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You're obviously entitled to your own opinions on where your bar is for "vibe coded," but I started the project years before "vibe coding" was a thing, and I've carefully cared for and hand-coded the entire architecture that libghostty-vt is built on over years of dedicated, volunteer work. And along the way being helped by other real humans…
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RE: https:// floss.social/@9to5linux/117539 623198444522 The vision to finally have a native # QtQuick terminal emulator with # Kwi is already something, but being based on # libghostty has me really excited. # Linux # qt # kde # konsole
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Possibly off-topic, but a fun fact from a native Korean speaker: > This is also how it came to bear its name: *kwisin*, or more typically *gwisin*, is a romanized form of *귀신*—Korean for ghost. It's pronounced a little bit like *kwee-shin*. The word is Sino-Korean, written [鬼神] in Chinese characters. The hanja corresponding to Kwi, the name of…
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Kwi Is a New KDE Terminal Emulator Built on Ghostty Technology https:// linuxiac.com/kde-introduces-kw i-a-new-gpu-accelerated-terminal-powered-by-ghostty/
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Your disappointment itself is not insulting to me. It is the blanket dismissal of the entire project. You can be disappointed in me, you can call my code slop if you want, etc. but its insulting to dismiss the years of work everyone has done that wasn't AI at all, just because some part of it was touched with AI. I obviously don't agree with your…
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Kwi Is a New Ghostty-Based GPU-Accelerated Terminal Emulator for KDE Plasma https:// lxer.com/module/newswire/ext_l ink.php?rid=368697
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Honestly as someone who probably largely agrees with you I think this anger is misplaced and counterproductive. In the current period of insanity about AI, I have seen mitchellh moving the conversation in the direction of being more careful and not just using a firehose of generated code. That's a good thing. I question what publicly insulting him…
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I'm happy you're using other terminal emulators. That doesn't bother me. Thank you for explaining your value system to me. Interesting goalposts. Thank you.
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Maybe I'm misreading/misunderstanding, but I find it interesting you don't as strongly dismiss Linux wholly as a "vibe coded kernel," according to your principles I've come to understand above. Does it follow that its maintainers have thrown away decades of manual labor by thousands of people and disrespected their contributors, too? That's how…
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The article literally says: > Please also don't mistake Kwi as some kind of announcement of the future KDE direction I you want to believe that Konsole is getting discontinued soon, you may choose so but you might be alone.
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So the terminal with the best Unicode support out of sixel-supporting ones is getting discontinued soon? (Konsole supports sixel, Ghostty doesn't and won't)
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> You are the one who has thrown away years of work, years of manual labour by loads of people, by turning it into slop Those years of work haven’t been thrown away. I’m using Ghostty today. I love it. I’ve never looked at the source code for it because I’ve honestly never encountered a bug as far as I know. It’s obviously, as a user, software…
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Hopefully not anytime soon. I love Konsole and I hope it'll live on forever. But, IIRC their original orange site post mentioned this is possible avenue of reducing KDE's maintenance burden. Maybe long term, is Kwi proves to be good enough it'll take over the default terminal role. The winds are flowing in that direction. Konsole is a codebase few…
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Very cool to see modernisation of the KDE terminal emulator! The interface looks great and uncluttered compared to the Konsole default, while still having everything needed. I've used Konsole years ago when I first moved to KDE, but quickly switched to Kitty as the former has some weirdness around font rendering (specifically, the braille…
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Ya know, this AI hype goes both ways. One can use a bit of assistance on grunt work without losing understanding if they have discipline. Discipline is definitely possible; currently not aware of evidence to dismiss mitchell and co’s work.
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It's hard to imagine what "slop" is supposed to mean if it can be applied to some of the highest-quality software written in decades.
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I wonder what your thoughts are on the legality of LLM output? I'm thinking of papers like this one, https://arxiv.org/html/2408.02487v3, that find up to 2% of LLM output is "strikingly similar to existing open-source implementations". > It's hugely insulting to me and others who have worked hard to produce [high quality libraries] with…
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Personally I would say that it’s just something you have to experience, similar to high refresh rate monitors. Obviously a slow terminal and a 60Hz display are _fine_, but for me personally, once you experience the smoother version, it recontextualises the ordinary version. It’s not a big enough difference that I would give up important features…
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I use Konsole. When would I notice slowness, that a GPU offloading terminal emulator would know how to avoid? I poke around the system, I edit files here and there, I build some software packages (AUR and Debian). I can't say I've been blown away by stuttering screens or anything. Am I misunderstanding where the speed increase is? Or is my pc just…
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I don't really understand how someone who works in technology and has probably not only embraced technology but created it for the better part of their life decides to just bury their head in the sand on this next iteration of technology. Whats the next step for you? Refuse to use any software that has AI-assisted code? Might has well give up…
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I have been honestly shocked in the past to learn that my terminal (not sure if it was Konsole or GNOME Terminal, it was a long time ago) was actually causing enough back pressure on stdout to slow down the very verbose debug output from some code I was working on. I triple checked before believing it wasn’t just printf and traced it to write(1,…)…
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And indeed pronounced similarly (guǐ) in Mandarin!
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It’s possible I’m leaving performance on the table by using slow terminal emulators as well, but I rarely feel like I’m waiting on text output. The one case I’ve noticed is tar, where archives with many small files are faster to extract if I omit the output… so I switched to using “xf” instead of “xvf”.
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> AI learns from patterns and reproduces aspects of them modified by its different persona (or mirage of a persona, whichever you prefer) in mostly the same way you do. Is this broadly accepted legal theory or your opinion?
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