Thread turns to East-West marketing and market-size comparisons
7 Nov 2 1:11 AM · 9d ago · 6 comments · 1 source · development 7 of 7
Commenters discuss historical practices of disguising Japanese games as Western-made for release, and compare the sales success to China's outsized domestic box office and gaming market.
“China has 10 times the population of Japan. It's like comparing the US games market to the Madagascar games market and going "why don't people treat them the same".”
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What was reported 1 claim about this development
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first by Eurogamer.net, 9d ago · also IGN, IGN Pakistan, Beebom, Push Square, RADII, FandomWire +2
6 more headlines
- Phantom Blade Zero Sells 4 Million Copies in 72 Hours IGN · 9d ago
- Phantom Blade Zero Becomes Massive Hit by Selling 4 Million Copies in Just 3 Days of Launch Beebom · 9d ago
- Phantom Blade Zero Is an Instant Hit with 4 Million Sales on PS5, PC Push Square · 9d ago
- Kungfupunk Goes Global: ‘Phantom Blade Zero’ Sells 4 Million in 3 Days RADII · 9d ago
- Phantom Blade Zero Officially Sells Over 4 Million Copies in 3 Days FandomWire · 9d ago
- Phantom Blade Zero Sells 4 Million Copies in 72 Hours, Peaking at 833,921 Concurrent Steam Players Ghacks · 9d ago
What people said 24 voices · best of 34 · verbatim
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I wouldn’t listen to the other guys criticisms closely tbh, I’ve played all of these games and also just wrapping up a Hellwalker playthrough right now. Stellar blade is a great comparison for boss spectacle but not really for combat IMO. Your character queues inputs in this game but also it’s entirely non-commital unless you’re using a…
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This is about as kung fu as a game can get. A unique fighting style that isn't in many games, especially to this depth. Also some of the most well designed and engaging bosses I've faced. The roster is very good and has a ton of variety. The music is another important aspect to action games, and this one is very Chinese while being mashed together…
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Only for the first few hours IMO. I’m pretty much near the end for true ending & absolutely nothing in this game on hellwalker holds a candle to sword saint, or some of the other bosses that would cause most players to experience friction in sekiro. The opening hours can be rough whilst you learn how the game wants to be played, but your character…
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My fiancè is 15 hours deep on easy and honestly watching her POV barely looks different to my Hellwalker run in terms of how enemies behave; which is great - means these players can experience the full package / spectacle whilst also doing a little more sha-chi damage & Hp dmg to boss health bars. I would genuinely recommend this game to anyone…
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Reminds me of how the box office on china works too, with some few exceptions for specific movies that have some break-in (something like Zootopia), the only movies that tend to do well in China are chinese ones. Like Ne Zha 2 had the biggest box office of the year with over 2b in China, but it's probably kinda rare to see someone who knows about…
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It’s great that you have this opinion so early on, because I’ll be honest, the level design & environmental story telling just elevates consistently after the first 1-2 zones. Genuinely goes from a good game to a great one. It does take a little while to reveal itself to you in terms of what the games actually going for so I’m not surprised some…
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Thats good to hear. I just got done with the wagon ride and played a little bit and found myself very underwhelmed. I think I may have misinformed myself as to what kind of game this was. At one point it was presented to me as more soulslike but that isn't the case, which is fine. I'll get back into it. The combat almost flows too easily, so I…
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the west with it's politics, ideology and agenda pushing as fallen and failed the east with it's "whatever this is a game, fight in it, have fun, characters are pretty" has won this is a weird world where China is the one not pushing agendas lmao, at least none i can see, just fun gameplay with attractive characters and that's it, very welcome.
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I’m too damn old to have crazy reflexes any more and I don’t generally enjoy insanely difficult games. I’m playing on easy, and while there are plenty of bosses I’ve one shot on that difficulty, there are also a couple who have kicked my ass. I still haven’t beaten the golden masked man (optional boss) though I was within a hit or two.
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I'm with you on it not mattering, but people pointing out it is mostly a Chinese audience are not racist. China is a country, not a race. If it was a Russian game being played by mostly Russians and someone made a point about it, would you call it racist? Stick to the point, avoid irrelevant, inflammatory attacks.
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That’s completely not true. Even in such a niche games like vermintide 2 or grim dawn China are the second biggest playerbase. They do buy non-Chinese games, you’re probably either arrogant to that matter or haven’t played more games which are popular in Chinese communities. They play a lot of western games.
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that's impossible, because i remember VERY VERY clearly, that "singleplayer games are over" as the ceos of big game publishers told us just a few short years ago and "live service multiplayer games are the future" clearly they must have miscounted the numbers or sth. /s /s /s
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Which still doesn't make sense because that red bride boss is encountered way later than the optional boss I was referring to. The one I was referring to is like 15 minutes from the start of the game, and it actually teaches you to avoid tougher fights until later.
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Well sure level design wise but combat is similar in structure you have regular attack “heavy” attack and the block/parry and dodge that work better depending on the attack. The Sha Chi system is quite unique tho but it is similar to the stamina system in GoW.
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Bro, it has had close to 1 million concurrent players on Steam, most copies are sold in China where PC is the dominant platform and the game is well optimized. Also - referring to PC as “Place to Cheat” is so fucking cringe. You should be embarrassed
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That is what I appreciate the most. The weapons are not just re-skins with different stats. They have different movesets, execution animations, and unique skills. I like how you get a new weapon each time you defeat a boss like you're Megaman.
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IDK the new God of War level design is pretty mid. It is just going into the square box and finishing the enemy again and again. So I won't say the level design is that or that similar like God of War.
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China has 10 times the population of Japan. It's like comparing the US games market to the Madagascar games market and going "why don't people treat them the same".
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I heard about about this boss and everyone saying it was a hard fight, so I was excited to fight it. I did it on first try and was very confused. :(
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Yeah, I had no trouble at all with Hua, but Jing Ye kicked my ass over and over until I full charged my axe to smash his shield during that phase.
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Japanese games doing exceptionally well in the west is what built the videogames industry back up after the atari crash. Other than that I agree.
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It’s not some established fact. Most Chinese gamers purchase games via Steam instead of WeGame. They have access to the same games as you do.
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How I describe it is if God of War and DMC had a Chinese baby. Or if God of War/GoW:R had a Chinese baby with its original Trilogy.
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Yeah Chinese people also buy games made by other countries and gets counted so why shouldn't they be counted for this game?lol
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