Commenters frame investment as response to US regulatory pressure
5 Nov 6 4:36 PM · 1d ago · 1 post · 31 comments · 1 source · development 5 of 5
Online discussion characterized the Malaysia deployment as evidence of AI companies relocating infrastructure outside the US in response to regulatory constraints, with implications for the competitive positioning of major AI firms.
“Now that data centers are moving outside the US, how does that impact the current leading AI companies? Labor is cheaper outside of the US so this trend might strengthen these companies more in the long-run even if it'll be annoying for these companies in the short run.”
ThirdHumanGoogle / Alphabet Investor and infrastructure developerRuth Porat Alphabet president and chief investment officerMalaysian government Host and beneficiary
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I'm not even going to finish reading your comment you do realize that the dot-com bubble lost 80 percent of all value on the nasdaq and it took until 2015 to get back? How old are you? A technology can be useful and cause a bubble and a major stock market crash and economic depression. We still use railroads today; it doesn't mean it didn't cause…
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Except most of those issues are made up. Majority of data centers are closed loop except few exceptions yet that won’t stop idiots in UK crying about data centre build out and claiming water issue despite the fact that all of them are closed loop system. Same goes for noise pollution complaints, 99% of data centers don’t have those issue ( I have…
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The same applies to other companies. They'll only be able to make it work if people pay money to access (good luck with that, people already don't want to pay for search), if they can fit in ads (none have successfully done this yet; Perplexity tried and gave up because it lost customer trust , or if some other way of making money off of AI search…
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The overwhelming majority of demand for these comes from two unprofitable companies, one of which will literally crater in the next couple of years (or both, given that even Anthropic lost hundreds of billions in it's valuation in like one week and is still too high). Frankly I'm not even convinced that the tech sector needs these data centers…
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Here's the article for you to read if you don't have a bloomberg account: https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/google-invest-15-billion-malaysia-2027-2028-2026-11-04/ Important quotes to inform you: The construction phase for the campuses is expected to contribute an annual average of $1.1 billion to Malaysia's GDP and support more than…
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Ireland? Are you joking? Do you know how expensive electricity is here? It’s the most expensive in the developed world. Do you know how much power data centers consume? Or that the entire island’s peak demand is only 6.5GW and a single AI campus (some being planned in the US) could consume more than that? It’s not even feasible (from a power…
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Europe has not even witnessed the insanity of US data center construction at all. Nothing is remotely 500MW+ or especially not 1GW+ there. Except perhaps for a couple of Nordic countries that do have excess power (and even then, it’s far from US like). Partly because frankly, almost no where in Europe has remotely the energy capacity for it, the…
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I wouldn’t be so sure. Political sentiment in Canada is closely aligned with the United States by way of us all consuming the same media. A great many of us don’t like ai for the same reasons as people in the states. This will also apply to many other countries, especially European. Just look at all the right wing movements over the last few years…
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Basically what it is. I go to the UK and Malaysia VERY often and the latter is still treated as a colony by the former. In Malaysia the roads are the same, and the petrol station makes the same costa coffee brew i buy, just one is 5x cheaper than the other. At the Malaysian resorts the tourists spend willy nilly as the pound goes much farther than…
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On Thursday, i took a break in Malaysia and got out of the car to eat a dunkin donut donut. Turns out was in front of a huge white building that said DATA CENTRE. And it was brand spanking new and finished. Looked really big and beautiful with workers buzzing around putting the touches. It was also very far and could see to the edge of my eyes…
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So then build the infrastructure! How can anyone defend building these things adjacent to residential population? And not all residential population, you don’t see them being built next to Elons house, only middle and lower class or farmers. These are highly disruptive to people and really need to be regulated for sound, water and power usage. Not…
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These things are so expensive that even the most profitable companies in the world are going cash-flow negative and needing to raise debt. And they are also saying they're having a hard time finding anyone willing to lend them enough money. It may eventually happen regardless of whether people want it or not, but delaying these data centers may…
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The .com bubble had a demand issue. Too many in debt internet companies and not enough people on the internet. AI has the opposite problem. The demand for AI and the accompanying infrastructure is massive. Many companies are booked at capacity years in advance. This is not a bubble and this crash is just based on fear that Dems will regulate AI in…
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Even if someone erroneously views the market as political theater, I can think of Democrats a) repealing tariffs, b) stopping the war in Iran, and c) restarting renewable energy growth. Each of these would be market positive efforts, and frankly are more likely than them stopping data centers. Nobody saying shit about these items, means it's just…
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Labor for data centers is useless. Big data centers only employ around 30 people. The rest is contracted for security or cleaning. Building data centers is a ton of jobs. Biggest risk to data centers in a foreign country is you have millions dollars into equipment that can easily be stolen and sold. Covered by security making $5 an hour.
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I genuinely don't think data centres, in and of themselves, are a huge evil or a bad thing to have being built in your country, but you do very much need officials who both know what they're doing and aren't willing to just sell the people out negotiating the deals. That's really been at the core of the issue.
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Get back to me once you're old enough to have watched your house lose half it's value in a month and 1 out of 10 of your neighbors homes get foreclosed on or have watched your 401k evaporate and we can have a conversation about economics, business, and the nature of financial mistakes and crises
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I mean the AI crash was so ridiculous to me. People pretend like data centers can only be built in the US or as if the US is the BEST place to build data centers. Honestly Ireland, canada or greenland would be a better place to build datacenters if you ask me. The AI trade will be just fine.
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I live in Malaysia and you don’t understand how much AI is affecting our lives right now as students.Our school is using AI to mark our essays and it’s just so fucking shit,hell I saw a guy during one of our exams using ChatGPT.The last thing I need is even more AI in this country.
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is anyone surprised the US doesn't have any power in terms of stopping or even delaying AI development? Trump's a fool in many ways but one thing I agree with him on, is that you either embrace AI or watch yourself become a third world country trying to fight or even control it.
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That’s because most people don’t understand difference between training and inference. If you want look at the report that published by Bloomberg recently about the cash flow For the big tech. We are not going to countinue seeing new models release every 2 months
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You're very observant. Google is undergoing massive undersea cable infrastructure connecting many continents. Also if you dig into this, do a quick search on data center build outs in India, Malaysia, Australia and even Africa. The money being invested is wild.
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I live half time US and other half Bangkok. The views on AI are drastically different between the two countries. The US is very negative and Thais are very positive. So do not think there will be much of an issue to build data centers outside of the US.
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There’s a carelessness in the build out. Like for example, in my hometown they are trying to build a massive electric cable through it to supply energy for one of these data centers. There’s very little consciousness about the people it is impacting.
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