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1 Sep 11 8:40 PM · 12d ago · 1 article · 3 posts · 3 sources · development 1 of 1
The Gadget Review report was posted to Hacker News and picked up by Mastodon-linked feeds, drawing dozens of comments as the piece circulated.
“Comparable to the brightest natural radio sources in the sky.”
Steven Tingay, Curtin University researcher · hn ↗Steven Tingay Curtin University researcherSpaceX / Starlink Satellite constellation operatorInternational Telecommunication Union (ITU) Global spectrum regulatorSKA-Low / Curtin University team Radio astronomy project and researchers
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Astronomers spent decades designing the Square Kilometre Array Low (SKA-Low) to hear the faintest whisper in the observable universe — neutral hydrogen signals from the cosmic dawn, when the first stars flickered on roughly 13 billion years ago. What they’re picking up instead is electronic leakage from SpaceX satellites. -- Not the broadband…
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There is some evidence that little engineering effort has been put into mitigating this problem. I think if someone actually tried really hard we could make these birds a lot quieter.> We compared the detected power flux densities of this UEMR to that emitted by the first generation v1.0 and v1.5 Starlink satellites. When correcting for the…
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I'm sorry what? "ULA couldn't design their rockets properly" They can design their rockets properly. It's Space X that cannot even get into orbit. Starship has had 10 years to get working and your complaining about Starliner? At least Starliner has a purpose and a destination. Holye shit you definitely have cognitive dissonance....... "designing…
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Starlink’s Signal Leakage Is Threatening Radio Astronomy’s Most Critical Frequencies # space # spacex # starlink https://www. gadgetreview.com/starlinks-sig nal-leakage-is-threatening-radio-astronomys-most-critical-frequencies
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Did you care about the writing style of Rex Edison before and now you are disappointed?That page is not the New Yorker.And don't get me wrong, but the writing of normal newspaper became shit through the internet not due to claude. You have the clickbait header, than you have the subtext which repeats the clickbait header, then you had the first…
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SpaceX isn’t going to reverse course. Starlinks are designed to stay about 5 years in orbit (yes, SpaceX needs to constantly launch new ones). SpaceX is also essentially synonymous with Elon. If he loses interest or gets hit by a bus tomorrow, SpaceX is gone, and in a few years so are Starlinks. So I would be cautious about this "reverse course" ;)
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Gadget Review: " Starlink’s Signal Leakage Is Threatening Radio Astronomy’s Most Critical Frequencies " "Curtin University study finds SpaceX hardware leakage up to 10,000 times stronger than the cosmic signals SKA-Low must detect" https://www. gadgetreview.com/starlinks-sig nal-leakage-is-threatening-radio-astronomys-most-critical-frequencies…
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> Algorithmic mitigation is being explored, but scientists describe it as “embryonic” — potentially demanding computing power that rivals the science processing itself.It sounds like this would work? Just be more costly, at least in the short term.> Engineering fixes are the real answerWhat is the fix and tradeoff? The article doesn't seem to…
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The SKA is trying to detect signals weaker than anything we've ever measured, and Starlink is essentially shouting next to it. 10,000x over the limit isn't a calibration issue that's a fundamental conflict between two things that can't coexist in the same sky.
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Once starship is running, spacex should launch a lunar crater telescope https://www.nasa.gov/general/lunar-crater-radio-telescope-lc... to permanently shut up this kind of grievances.
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All the more incentive to establish a permanent lunar presence. We can use the dark side of the moon as essentially a radiation shield to block the RF pollution from earth. Would offer a much lower background radiation than anywhere earthside
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I just have to say: I _hate_ with a white-hot fury the growing usage of html-load and error-report dot com bullshit on these sites. I block those domains for gratuitous ad-serving, and sites just cycle a modal error now.(I know, I could disable JavaScript everywhere and enable it on a site-by-site basis. Maybe that time has come.)
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And who's going to pay for them? Biggest ground-based telescope nearing completion has 39m mirror and costed around $1.5bln. Biggest space telescope has 6.5m mirror and costed $10bln. That's essentially 100x cost difference.
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While I pine for a dark sky, it makes sense that these operations should move in the same way century old optical telescopes in cities are no longer used for cutting edge science.The far side of the moon seems like an increasingly viable option.
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Doing it "in space"/"on the Moon" costs roughly 100-1000x more and we can't even build anything nearly as big. And astronomy funding is already very limited. "Stop doing it on Earth" basically means "stop doing it".
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Not to mention 13 em-dashes in a 500 word post. At this point you may as well ask Claude yourself about news and cut out the middleman. That'll also cut into their attempts to manipulate your opinion.
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And then figure out how to maintain a complex array like SKA-Low, but on the dark side of the moon? Meteorites, regolith, lack of atmosphere & magnetic field… not impossible, but sounds like a real nightmare.
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I realize this is off topic, but why do people use Claude of all models to write these, when its style is so obvious and so grating? I just immediately hit Back on the first Claudism.
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As an astronomer, I am used to people on Reddit claiming these sorts of things without realizing that building telescopes to operate in vacuum without maintenance is hard.
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Another example of billionaire wait trillionaire power capture. It’s really tough for democracy when one man has all that power. Hah Elon is lex luthor.
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"their industries" That is zero incentive. Space X would have to keep adding value to the space program and push forward. So far they are not pusing anything.
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That’s a mighty nice field of study you have there. It would be a shame if something happened to it
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All astronomical observations should be moved to space and away from Earth's orbit, at least as far as dark side of the moon if not further.
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Or we could just not pollute the earth and instead invest in long term upgradable and repairable infrastructure instead?
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