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Engineer's Critique: AI Hype, Vulnerability Research, and Industry Gone Mad

Lobsters commenters identify systemic problem with 'ethics aside' framing

Discussion surfaces tension between defenders of AI development and critics who reject the premise that such systems must be built; commenters argue companies have choice not to pursue these technologies.

Lobsters commenters identify systemic problem with 'ethics aside' framing
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“You are doing it right now in your comment, though, by excusing these companies for building the torment nexus. Like this work MUST be done. It's just not true. Life will continue on after this fallout, just like life continued on before this technology.”

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Jän Schauma Security engineer and authorAnthropic AI companyOpenAI AI company

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