Hacker News debates the feature's design and alternatives
3 Nov 3 4:39 PM · 4d ago · 2 articles · 1 post · 26 comments · 2 sources · development 3 of 4
A large Hacker News thread formed around the WebKit announcement, with commenters split between welcoming native automatic dark mode, worrying it will create friction for developers, pointing to existing extensions like Dark Reader and Noir, and critiquing technical choices such as the light-dark() CSS naming and WCAG contrast math.
“If this ends up working anything like the Gmail Dark Mode implementations on iOS and Android that have drove developers insane and users mad, then I expect both parties to become upset.”
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Does this work for light mode, too? I suspect I'm in the minority given this is a tech circle, but I greatly prefer light mode because dark mode has always been harder for me to read for whatever reason. When I go to dark mode sites I click Reader View when possible to make it easier to read. It'd be cool if there was an "adaptive light mode" that…
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It makes me so angry that they named the CSS function `light-dark` instead of leaving the door open to allowing generic user- or site-specified color schemes. I mean it was right there in all the other mechanisms around this feature, they just had to read and think about why these are structured the way they are, and why "light" and "dark" were…
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Ever lay in bed at night reading in dark mode and load a bright web page that burns your blood vessel pattern onto the back of your eyeballs? Yeah, only about 1 in 4 websites support dark mode. That leaves a lot of the web in supernova mode. Safari 27.3 beta has a neat ability to automatically adapt light webpage content into dark when you're…
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Dark mode only and monospaced body text are the two things I hate most about “techy” sites.
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No thanks. When you are my age you will understand.I have no idea why all the fucking vibed websites that swank around the web these days are unable to do a simple thing: * Have one or more "themes" with dark and light variants * Query the browser for a preference of light or dark and offer the default theme with the probed variant. There is also…
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Safari 27.3 beta has been released, introducing vertical tabs for easier tab management on larger screen such as iPad & iPhone Duo, adaptive dark mode for websites that lack native dark mode, and Siri AI custom actions. https:// alternativeto.net/news/2026/11 /safari-27-3-beta-introduces-vertical-tabs-adaptive-dark-mode-and-siri-ai-custom-actions/
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Indeed! I often skip reading articles with that kind of layout.
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Personally I'm excited for this on iOS—I find that reading boring stuff in dark mode at minimum brightness on my phone is easily the most effective way for me to fall asleep (contrary to the blue light/no phones in bed advice). With an OLED screen the amount of light emitted is so much lower than any alternative I've tried. For sites like HN (some…
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Introducing Adaptive Dark Mode → https:// webkit.org/blog/18541/introduc ing-adaptive-dark-mode/ Apple sherlockt Noir und andere Dark-Mode-Safari-Extensions. Zudem wird es mit i/iPad/macOS 27.3 Vertical Tabs geben, was bedeutet, wir haben ein bisschen was in Sachen Browser-Chrome-Emulation bei Views zu tun. ∞ https:// eay.li/47x # blog
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> In the spring of 2019, Safari 12.1 became the first browser to support dark mode on the web. It’s often said that Safari is today’s Internet Explorer, lacking behind on standards. I’d argue, Apple is on the forefront regarding standards in the interest of users, while taking their time with standards benefiting ~~Google~~ web developers.
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> When transforming text color, Adaptive Dark Mode aims for sufficient contrast as defined by the WCAG 4.5:1 contrast ratio.The WCAG 2 contrast checker is known to be inaccurate, specifically for light on dark color combinations (i.e. dark mode) so 4.5:1 isn't always going to be easy to read. The APCA contrast checker was being considered for WCAG…
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# Business # Announcements Introducing adaptive dark mode · Safari brings a dark look to light pages on request https:// ilo.im/16hmcd _____ # Safari # Browser # DarkMode # Websites # Development # WebDev # Frontend # HTML # CSS
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The problem with IE was that it was the dominant browser, every website HAD to work on it or the client would throw a fit. Chrome (Chromium) is the new IE. It's the market leader and all sites must work on it.
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As a user, I'm really excited about this. There are still so many websites that don't support dark mode.Having built websites myself, I know how much attention it takes to make sure every page and component looks good in both light and dark mode.It's not perfect yet. Even in the second demo, you can see that the chart remains white, creating a…
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Safari loves you, goths — “Adaptive Dark Mode is designed to close that gap, providing a consistent dark experience across the web.” https:// webkit.org/blog/18541/introduc ing-adaptive-dark-mode/
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> It'd be cool if there was an "adaptive light mode" that kept the page structure the same but inverted the colors when the original is dark. 100% agree. In addition it sounds like they're doing more than just that, and actually adjusting contrast towards best practices as necessary, too... which is actually the _bigger_ problem I have with dark…
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If this ends up working anything like the Gmail Dark Mode implementations on iOS and Android that have drove developers insane and users mad, then I expect both parties to become upset. It is easy to view this as a win for users, but the moment this doesn't work well in various scenarios, the vocal minority will punish the developers of the web as…
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> Now thanks to web inspector I remove monospace from stylesheets. There could be a bookmarklet to do this probably. You should look into writing user styles (and/or scripts) and using something like [Stylus](https://add0n.com/stylus.html) or [Violentmonkey](https://violentmonkey.github.io/) to apply them.
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This is awesome because I like reasonable solutions that let me be lazy.I'm sure there are designers that love dealing with two themes, and will do beautiful work within each theme.But I'm really fine with letting the computer figure it out. CRM, back office tools, admin dashboards... many clients are approving one design and dark mode is an…
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Same, depending on the lighting conditions of the room, I may use dark mode, but most of the time I am on light mode because it just feels better to read.
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I use dark mode for everything, so I'm pretty happy about this. Some sites were clearly designed to be light, and forcing dark on them could break the experience, but that's exactly what `color-scheme: light only` is for, and it's good that Safari respects it. Other than that it feels like a win-win to me: great for dark mode users, and for devs…
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I appreciate the privacy aspect. I use LibreWolf—which for this discussion means Fx with `privacy.resistFingerprinting` on—& I always end up on the default light theme purely to avoid all the fingerprinting. It’s always kinda irked me that I couldn’t opt out based on a list or heuristic… it’s really the corpo, ad-riddled, proprietary-tracking…
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I bet the Safari team has been on HN for so long and after 10 years waiting for Dark Mode they finally decided to fix it once and for all.I guess we should thank Dang for this feature! :)Hopefully Safari team would continue to get resources to fix and improve Safari. The final 10% is going to take some long grinds I am a little worry their new CEO…
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I can't update Safari to beta in this Mac due to not being mine, so I'm left to wonder how this compare to the Dark Reader extension since it looks Apple team made a great effort with its heuristics. On the other hand, having a "native" dark mode available may convince some webpages to test what happens when users forces dark mode and not shrug it…
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