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Apple reverses privacy stance, will use Siri data to train AI models

The company quietly rewrote its AI guidelines to allow personal data from Siri conversations and audio recordings for training, breaking a core privacy promise.

newest coverage 11d agosummary written 12d ago7 pieces68 likes & upvotes11 comments MastodonHacker News

What to know

  • Apple is now collecting and using Siri conversation data—including audio recordings—to train AI models, directly contradicting its previous public promise never to use personal data for AI training.
  • The company quietly rewrote its "responsible AI" guidelines to add an exception clause, allowing data use "unless you explicitly choose to help improve them," discovered only in iOS 27 developer previews.
  • Users can opt in via a prompt with a visually inconspicuous "Not now" button, and later disable the feature in Settings; the dialog cannot be completely dismissed on first setup.
  • The reversal coincides with new Apple Watch models designed for persistent listening and Apple's first integration of Google servers into its Private Cloud Compute system, raising broader privacy concerns.

“Apple's promise was simple: Personal data from iPhone users will never be used to train AI models. That is now over.”

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Apple reverses privacy stance, will use Siri data to train AI models
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    Apple includes Siri data-training clause in iOS 27 release notes

    Apple's privacy policy in the iOS 27 release candidate, due for public rollout September 14, discloses that the company will store and use Siri conversations—including audio data, transcripts, and responses—to improve its AI models. The data will not be linked to Apple accounts and will only be reviewed by Apple employees, though some material may be evaluated by unspecified "review personnel."

    “Apple can "store your entire interactions with Siri and the dictation function, including the audio data and transcripts of your typed and spoken Siri requests, as well as Siri's responses"”
    — Apple
    • hyggesalpaka@alpaka.garden

      https://www. heise.de/en/news/Backflip-Appl e-now-wants-to-train-AI-models-with-user-data-after-all-11451252.html

      hyggesalpaka@alpaka.gardenMastodon13d agoview on Mastodon ↗
  2. background

    Developers report Apple quietly revised "responsible AI" guidelines — Apple removed a core sentence from its public AI responsibility statement—"Your private personal data and interactions are never used to train our foundation models"—and added the caveat "unless you explicitly choose to help improve them." The revision was not announced but discovered by developers reviewing the iOS 27 release candidate.

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    Heise reports Apple's reversal of user-data-for-training policy

    German tech publication Heise de reports the discovery of Apple's policy reversal in the iOS 27 pre-release, noting the company is breaking with its previous public positioning against competitors by now allowing Siri training data collection via an opt-in dialog that users must actively dismiss.

    1. 1 outlet Backflip: Apple now wants to train AI models with user data after all

      first by Mastodon, 15d ago