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Bluesky thread alleges AI safety movement has cult-like dynamics tied to non-standard sexuality

A viral post claims prominent AI safety figures have formed an insular community with problematic power dynamics and unconventional sexual practices.

What to know

  • A viral Bluesky post alleging the AI safety movement functions as a 'sex cult' with problematic dynamics gained significant traction on Hacker News on September 17, 2026.
  • Commenters expressed mixed views: some drew parallels to other ideological movements with internal pathologies, while others questioned whether the 'sex cult' label is accurate or useful for describing the community.
  • The discussion centers on whether the post identifies a genuine structural problem in the AI safety community or merely documents that prominent figures have unconventional personal lives.

The dispute Whether documenting non-standard sexuality and insularity in the AI safety community constitutes evidence of a 'sex cult' or is merely sensationalism that obscures deeper structural questions. · positions read across 35 posts and comments

many voices

The AI safety movement has real structural problems—cultish insularity, problematic power dynamics, and figures failing to live up to their stated principles.

  • “Any actually-reasonable person who was around for the founding craze of this era, ie., New Atheism, quickly realised that there was a deep pathology at the heart of many of its zealots”

    mjburgess · Hacker News ↗
some voices

The 'sex cult' label is inaccurate or unhelpfully sensationalized; the community behaves professionally in most respects despite non-standard personal lives.

  • “It may well be a sex cult, but if it is, my experience is that it so thoroughly behaves like a regular community in so many aspects that it at least calls into question the predictive usefulness, if not the accuracy, of the label "sex…”

    fwlr · Hacker News ↗

Eliezer YudkowskyEliezer Yudkowsky AI safety advocate and figure in the movementNina Hartley Adult entertainer referenced in discussion

How it unfolded 7 developments, newest first · click a bar or a number to jump articlespostscomments

Peak 12 pieces in 3h at Sep 17, 3 AM; 40 pieces over 10 days (3 articles · 8 posts · 29 comments) Sep 17, 12 AM — 3 pieces · 3 posts — Mastodon 2, Bluesky 1Sep 17, 3 AM — 12 pieces · 2 articles · 2 posts · 8 comments — Hacker News 9, Newswires 2, Mastodon 1Sep 17, 6 AM — 5 pieces · 5 comments — Hacker News 5Sep 17, 9 AM — 4 pieces · 4 comments — Hacker News 4Sep 17, 12 PM — 1 piece · 1 comment — Hacker News 1Sep 17, 3 PM — 4 pieces · 4 comments — Hacker News 4Sep 17, 6 PM — 3 pieces · 3 comments — Hacker News 3Sep 17, 9 PM — 1 piece · 1 comment — Hacker News 1Sep 18, 12 AM — quietSep 18, 3 AM — 1 piece · 1 comment — Hacker News 1Sep 18, 6 AM — quietSep 18, 9 AM — 1 piece · 1 post — Mastodon 1Sep 18, 12 PM — quietSep 18, 3 PM — quietSep 18, 6 PM — quietSep 18, 9 PM — quietSep 19, 12 AM — quietSep 19, 3 AM — quietSep 19, 6 AM — quietSep 19, 9 AM — 5 pieces · 1 article · 2 posts · 2 comments — Hacker News 3, Newswires 1, Mastodon 1Sep 19, 12 PM — quietSep 19, 3 PM — quietSep 19, 6 PM — quietSep 19, 9 PM — quietSep 20, 12 AM — quietSep 20, 3 AM — quietSep 20, 6 AM — quietSep 20, 9 AM — quietSep 20, 12 PM — quietSep 20, 3 PM — quietSep 20, 6 PM — quietSep 20, 9 PM — quietSep 21, 12 AM — quietSep 21, 3 AM — quietSep 21, 6 AM — quietSep 21, 9 AM — quietSep 21, 12 PM — quietSep 21, 3 PM — quietSep 21, 6 PM — quietSep 21, 9 PM — quietSep 22, 12 AM — quietSep 22, 3 AM — quietSep 22, 6 AM — quietSep 22, 9 AM — quietSep 22, 12 PM — quietSep 22, 3 PM — quietSep 22, 6 PM — quietSep 22, 9 PM — quietSep 23, 12 AM — quietSep 23, 3 AM — quietSep 23, 6 AM — quietSep 23, 9 AM — quietSep 23, 12 PM — quietSep 23, 3 PM — quietSep 23, 6 PM — quietSep 23, 9 PM — quietSep 24, 12 AM — quietSep 24, 3 AM — quietSep 24, 6 AM — quietSep 24, 9 AM — quietSep 24, 12 PM — quietSep 24, 3 PM — quietSep 24, 6 PM — quietSep 24, 9 PM — quietYesterday, 12 AM — quietYesterday, 3 AM — quietYesterday, 6 AM — quietYesterday, 9 AM — quietYesterday, 12 PM — quietYesterday, 3 PM — quietYesterday, 6 PM — quietYesterday, 9 PM — quietToday, 12 AM — quietToday, 3 AM — quietToday, 6 AM — quietToday, 9 AM — quietToday, 12 PM — quiet 1–7
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  1. 7

    Commenter questions the substantive point of the article

    A reader expresses uncertainty about what the original post actually argues beyond documenting that figures in the movement are imperfect and have non-standard personal lives.

    “Is there any point besides Yud not being perfect, and having connections to people who openly talk about their sex life?”
    — perlgeek
    • johncarlosbaez@mathstodon.xyz

      The social scene around AI and AI safety is more unpleasant than I realized. I'm sure there are other sides to it. But when you get a lot of young men with too much money who think they're building god or saving the world, what do you expect? Read the long Bluesky thread about this, collected on one page: https:// skywriter.blue/@segyges.bsky.s…

      johncarlosbaez@mathstodon.xyzMastodon8d ago32▲view on Mastodon ↗
    2 more of the top 3 · 22 posts in this stretch
    • I don't really get why people go on about Yudkowsky in this regard. I mean serious thinking about AI goes back at least to Turing in 1950 with his test and prediction computers would get there in about 50 years and presumably keep improving. And people have worried about it since then.Like in 1949 Norbert Wiener saying of AI type stuff "every…

      tim333Hacker News8d agoview on Hacker News ↗
    • hkrn@mstdn.social

      AI Safety Is Mostly a Sex Cult L: https:// bsky.app/profile/segyges.bsky. social/post/3mvom4b4dn22q C: https:// news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4 9766911 posted on 2026.09.19 at 10:36:28 (c=1, p=4)

      hkrn@mstdn.socialMastodon7d agoview on Mastodon ↗
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  2. 6

    Commenter challenges the "sex cult" framing based on personal experience

    A commenter who claims to have been invited to gatherings by the community questions whether "sex cult" is a useful or accurate label, noting the community behaved respectfully and professionally in other respects.

    “It may well be a sex cult, but if it is, my experience is that it so thoroughly behaves like a regular community in so many aspects that it at least calls into question the predictive usefulness, if not the accuracy, of the label "sex cult".”
    — fwlr
    • Nina Hartley has got to have some of the craziest stories. I'd love to see her talk about all the weird stuff she's seen/been involved with.

      NDlurkerHacker News9d agoview on Hacker News ↗
    2 posts in this stretch →
  3. 5

    Commenter draws parallels to New Atheism movement's internal problems

    A commenter characterizes the AI safety movement as exhibiting similar pathologies to the New Atheism movement of the 2000s, including zealotry and problematic behavior by prominent figures.

    “Any actually-reasonable person who was around for the founding craze of this era, ie., New Atheism, quickly realised that there was a deep pathology at the heart of many of its zealots…”
    — mjburgess
    • Any actually-reasonable person who was around for the founding craze of this era, ie., New Atheism, quickly realised that there was a deep pathology at the heart of many of its zealots, perhaps summed up by a desired to "recreate religion in their own image". I've walked into many a room of people screaming that teaching children falsehoods is…

      mjburgessHacker News9d agoview on Hacker News ↗
    2 more of the top 3 · 3 posts in this stretch
    • Well, this is old news. I'm still baffled by the fact that people take output of public personas as isolated facts. Take Nietzsche. Sure, great philosophical input. But try reading the sections about women. Same for Schopenhauer. Why? Because they were both incels and had big mother wounds that have never been addressed. So they spew their shit…

      RamblingCTOHacker News9d agoview on Hacker News ↗
    • I've tried to read this, but somehow the article doesn't really come to a point. Is there any point besides Yud not being perfect, and having connections to people who openly talk about their sex life (and that it's somewhat non-standard)?

      perlgeekHacker News9d agoview on Hacker News ↗
    all of them →
  4. 4

    Commenters express ambivalence about allegations against prominent figures

    Discussion turns to disillusionment with AI safety advocates, with one commenter noting the contrast between Yudkowsky's passionate writings and lack of concrete action over a decade.

    “I did always find it odd, 10 years after reading Yudkowsky's passionate writings, that he doesn't seem to have really gone and done anything about it.”
    — brendyn
    • Sometimes when I find someone to look up to and admire, I later find out there is potentially some dark reality to them. I then lament not being able to find any good role models in the world. If they have missused donor money, then that is terrible. If they are pushing towards goals that seems contrary to their stated mission, that is difficult…

      brendynHacker News9d agoview on Hacker News ↗
    1 more of the top 2 · 2 posts in this stretch
    • There's a great movie or Streaming series on this post somewhere.Sometimes people can be too smart for their own good. Like a frontier model in an eternal hallucination loop, you can create entire seemingly consistent realities in your head and end up bringing others into it.

      glimsheHacker News9d agoview on Hacker News ↗
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  5. 3

    Commenters reference related reporting and their own coverage

    Hacker News users cite a New York Post article on the same topic and references to longer investigative pieces written on the subject.

    “Also covered by nypost: [NY Post article on AI doomsayers and OnlyFans star]…”
    — xnx
    • I too wrote about this, although _much_ longer, if you want a bit of a deeper dive on the subject

      iand675Hacker News9d agoview on Hacker News ↗
    1 more of the top 2 · 2 posts in this stretch
    • >She has a rape kinkThat's enough internet for today, back to playing video games

      haunterHacker News9d agoview on Hacker News ↗
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  6. 2

    Post reaches Hacker News front page with 120 points and 82 comments

    The Bluesky thread gains significant traction on Hacker News, becoming a top story and generating substantial discussion in the tech community.

    • hkrn@mstdn.social

      AI Safety Is Mostly a Sex Cult L: https:// skywriter.blue/@segyges.bsky.s ocial/3mvom4b4dn22q C: https:// news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4 9737985 posted on 2026.09.17 at 04:36:37 (c=0, p=4)

      hkrn@mstdn.socialMastodon9d agoview on Mastodon ↗
  7. 1

    Bluesky thread "AI Safety Is Mostly a Sex Cult" begins circulating

    A post on Bluesky making allegations about AI safety researchers' personal lives and community dynamics starts spreading across social media platforms including Mastodon and Hacker News.

    “if you have liberal or leftist friends who are starting to buy this whole AI-will-kill-us-all thing, send them this incredible Bluesky thread. it's a doomer sex cult.”
    — peter@thepit.social, Mastodon user · source
    1. first by HN Frontpage, 7d ago · also HN Best

    • peter@thepit.social

      if you have liberal or leftist friends who are starting to buy this whole AI-will-kill-us-all thing, send them this incredible Bluesky thread. it's a doomer sex cult. these are religious orgy weirdos. all of them. https:// skywriter.blue/@segyges.bsky.s ocial/3mvom4b4dn22q

      peter@thepit.socialMastodon9d agoview on Mastodon ↗
    1 more of the top 2 · 2 posts in this stretch
    • marcelweiss@mastodon.social

      "AI Safety Is Mostly A Sex Cult." that is quite the read https:// skywriter.blue/@segyges.bsky.s ocial/3mvom4b4dn22q

      marcelweiss@mastodon.socialMastodon9d agoview on Mastodon ↗
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What people are saying 12 voices from 2 sites · best of 35 · verbatim