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Martin Fowler publishes critique of LLM behavior and design

The software architect argues LLMs exhibit traits of a personality type he dislikes, regardless of their capabilities.

What to know

  • Martin Fowler published an article arguing LLMs embody a personality type he finds objectionable, framing criticism around behavioral traits rather than technical limitations.
  • The piece circulated across tech communities (Hacker News, Lobsters) the same day, generating immediate discussion among software developers.
  • The core critique centers on LLM behavior and presentation rather than capability questions.

Martin Fowler Software architect, writer

How it unfolded 2 developments, newest first · click a bar or a number to jump articlesposts

Peak 22 pieces in 3h at Sep 17, 9 AM; 73 pieces over 9 days (1 article · 3 posts · 69 comments) Sep 17, 9 AM — 22 pieces · 1 article · 3 posts · 18 comments — Hacker News 19, Mastodon 1, Newswires 1, +1 moreSep 17, 12 PM — 8 pieces · 8 comments — Lobsters 6, Hacker News 2Sep 17, 3 PM — 10 pieces · 10 comments — Lobsters 9, Hacker News 1Sep 17, 6 PM — 5 pieces · 5 comments — Lobsters 4, Hacker News 1Sep 17, 9 PM — 4 pieces · 4 comments — Lobsters 3, Hacker News 1Sep 18, 12 AM — 1 piece · 1 comment — Lobsters 1Sep 18, 3 AM — 5 pieces · 5 comments — Lobsters 4, Hacker News 1Sep 18, 6 AM — 7 pieces · 7 comments — Lobsters 7Sep 18, 9 AM — 4 pieces · 4 comments — Lobsters 4Sep 18, 12 PM — 3 pieces · 3 comments — Lobsters 3Sep 18, 3 PM — 4 pieces · 4 comments — Lobsters 4Sep 18, 6 PM — quietSep 18, 9 PM — quietSep 19, 12 AM — quietSep 19, 3 AM — quietSep 19, 6 AM — quietSep 19, 9 AM — quietSep 19, 12 PM — quietSep 19, 3 PM — quietSep 19, 6 PM — quietSep 19, 9 PM — quietSep 20, 12 AM — quietSep 20, 3 AM — quietSep 20, 6 AM — quietSep 20, 9 AM — quietSep 20, 12 PM — quietSep 20, 3 PM — quietSep 20, 6 PM — quietSep 20, 9 PM — quietSep 21, 12 AM — quietSep 21, 3 AM — quietSep 21, 6 AM — quietSep 21, 9 AM — quietSep 21, 12 PM — quietSep 21, 3 PM — quietSep 21, 6 PM — quietSep 21, 9 PM — quietSep 22, 12 AM — quietSep 22, 3 AM — quietSep 22, 6 AM — quietSep 22, 9 AM — quietSep 22, 12 PM — quietSep 22, 3 PM — quietSep 22, 6 PM — quietSep 22, 9 PM — quietSep 23, 12 AM — quietSep 23, 3 AM — quietSep 23, 6 AM — quietSep 23, 9 AM — quietSep 23, 12 PM — quietSep 23, 3 PM — quietSep 23, 6 PM — quietSep 23, 9 PM — quietSep 24, 12 AM — quietSep 24, 3 AM — quietSep 24, 6 AM — quietSep 24, 9 AM — quietSep 24, 12 PM — quietSep 24, 3 PM — quietSep 24, 6 PM — quietSep 24, 9 PM — quietYesterday, 12 AM — quietYesterday, 3 AM — quietYesterday, 6 AM — quietYesterday, 9 AM — quietYesterday, 12 PM — quietYesterday, 3 PM — quietYesterday, 6 PM — quietYesterday, 9 PM — quietToday, 12 AM — quietToday, 3 AM — quietToday, 6 AM — quietToday, 9 AM — quietToday, 12 PM — quietToday, 3 PM — quiet 1–2
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    Article gains attention on Hacker News

    The article was submitted to Hacker News and Lobsters, accumulating engagement with 71 points and 58 comments on HN within hours of publication.

    • > On the other hand, I’m fearful of the damage AI might cause: agent swarms taking over our virtual and physical infrastructure, designing bio weapons. But, back on my first hand, LLMs might also design miracle cures, and come up with clever ways to raise our prosperity. I really, really object to this framing. Dario Amodei goes particularly hard…

      spillybonesvibecoding9d ago77▲view on Lobsters ↗
    2 more of the top 3 · 69 posts in this stretch
    • The difference between working with LLM you don't trust rather than with people you don't trust is that you have no social obligations with LLMs.If you want to work with untrustworthy people, you not only have to double check everything, which may be tolerable but you may also need to do some social gymnastics, as people usually don't like be told…

      GuB-42Hacker News9d agoview on Hacker News ↗
    • I wish that sentiment came through for the guests Martin keeps featuring on his blog.

      Halkcyonvibecoding9d ago32▲view on Lobsters ↗
    all of them →
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    Martin Fowler publishes "I Don't Like LLMs"

    Software architect Martin Fowler published an article on his site criticizing LLMs, framing the issue not around capability but around the personality and behavior they exhibit.

    “one feeling dominates: not just are they pretending to be a person, but the kind of person I don't like…”
    — Martin Fowler
    1. first by HN Frontpage, 9d ago

    • mfowler@toot.thoughtworks.com

      NEW POST I see AI and LLMs as bringing a mix of boons and banes, but one feeling dominates: not just are they pretending to be a person, but the kind of person I don't like. https:// martinfowler.com/articles/2026 -dont-like-llms.html

      mfowler@toot.thoughtworks.comMastodon9d ago9▲view on Mastodon ↗

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