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SpaceXAI weighs buying dead startups' customer data to train Grok

Bloomberg reports informal talks at Musk's merged SpaceX-xAI unit to acquire the leftover files of failed companies through bankruptcy sales, echoing Google's Spirit Airlines data buy.

What to know

  • SpaceXAI has held informal internal talks about buying the leftover customer and operational data of bankrupt startups to train Grok more cheaply than scraped web data.
  • Bankruptcy law treats customer databases like any other liquidation asset, auctioned off without customers being asked or notified.
  • Google already paid $10 million for Spirit Airlines' internal records, a move a flight attendants' union is contesting in ongoing bankruptcy-court litigation over de-identification.
  • Musk has told SpaceX staff the company will also mine employees' own data, saying the model 'will inherit your thoughts.'

Elon MuskElon Musk Owner of SpaceX and xAISpaceXAI AI division formed by SpaceX-xAI mergerGoogle AI competitorFlight attendants' union Objector in Spirit Airlines bankruptcy case

SpaceXAI weighs buying dead startups' customer data to train Grok
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    Bloomberg reports SpaceXAI discussing buying defunct startups' data

    People familiar with the matter told Bloomberg that SpaceXAI has held informal talks about buying the leftover customer and operational data of startups that have already gone out of business, seeking cheaper, real business records to train Grok; the talks may go nowhere.

    “It will inherit your thoughts.”
    — Elon Musk, Owner of SpaceX and xAI · source
  2. background

    Musk tells staff SpaceX will also mine employees' own data — At a SpaceX all-hands meeting, Musk said the company would go beyond buying outside data and would train on its own employees' work and outlook, telling staff to think of themselves as raising the model.

  3. background

    SpaceX releases Grok 4.5, its first model since the merger — Grok 4.5 launched as the first model built under the combined SpaceX-xAI structure, ahead of a delayed new Grok version and Musk's $60 billion Cursor acquisition.

  4. background

    SpaceX merges with xAI to form SpaceXAI — SpaceX and xAI combined into a single artificial intelligence division, SpaceXAI, which is now driving Grok development and data-acquisition strategy.

  5. background

    Flight attendants' union challenges the Spirit data sale in court — A flight attendants' union objected in bankruptcy court, arguing that 'de-identifying' the records does not prevent someone from piecing together who said what in a decade of internal chats; the court fight is ongoing.

  6. background

    Google buys Spirit Airlines' internal records for $10 million — After the discount carrier shut down, Google paid $10 million in a bankruptcy auction for roughly 100 million emails, 500 million Microsoft Teams messages, and decades of employee files, feeding them into an AI training pipeline.

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