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ClimateQuiet 5d · day 6

Amazon deforestation at 17%—scientists warn 20-25% triggers irreversible climate shift

A Bluesky post highlights scientists' long-standing warning about the Amazon tipping point as clearing reaches dangerous levels.

What to know

  • Amazon deforestation has reached 17% of total forest cover, according to a scientist's post, approaching the 20-25% threshold scientists have identified as triggering irreversible climate tipping.
  • Online conversation centers on systemic failure: politicians and corporate interests prioritize profit over ecological warnings that have been public for years.
  • Commenters are split between despair (believing the tipping point is already crossed or imminent) and calls to action (reducing beef and palm oil consumption, demanding government intervention).
  • A minority voice argues that doomerism itself undermines climate action, countering claims that all is lost.

The dispute Whether the tipping point has already been crossed (irreversible) or whether mitigation efforts still have meaningful value—optimists argue every fraction matters; pessimists say we are past the point of no return. · positions read across 93 posts and comments

most voices

Humanity is acting with suicidal stupidity and the tipping point is already crossed or imminent; systemic change is politically impossible.

  • “How stupid is humanity. Extinction stupid.”

    robertjeff57-58.bsky.social · Bluesky ↗
many voices

Individual consumer choices (reducing beef, avoiding palm oil) and direct action can slow destruction if enough people change behavior.

  • “It's being cut down to plant palm oil plantations (to sell to junk food manufacturers) & to create more area for beef production. Please check grocery item labels for palm oil & don't buy.”

    norska11.bsky.social · Bluesky ↗
some voices

Doomerism is counterproductive; every fraction of carbon reduction matters, and fighting for mitigation is still the right course.

  • “None of that is true. El Niño HAS started, although it hasn't yet reached full strength, and there is no 'edge' beyond which the climate is 'beyond repair'. There's everything to fight for, every fraction of a degree matters. Doomerism is…”

    perahlberg.bsky.social · Bluesky ↗
some voices

The fundamental problem is structural: politicians care only about votes and money, corporations only about profit, and most people cannot afford to prioritize environmental concerns.

  • “Many people don't see or understand the problem, partly due to poor communication. Many more can't afford to care. Corporate interests care only about money. Politicians only care about money & votes; trees don't vote.”

    pooetryman.bsky.social · Bluesky ↗

abilutangwa.bsky.social Bluesky poster

Amazon deforestation at 17%—scientists warn 20-25% triggers irreversible climate shift
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How it unfolded 2 developments, newest first · click a bar or a number to jump postscomments

Peak 25 pieces in two hours at Sep 18, 1 PM; 93 pieces over 6 days (1 post · 92 comments) Sep 18, 9 AM — 21 pieces · 1 post · 20 comments — Bluesky 21Sep 18, 11 AM — 16 pieces · 16 comments — Bluesky 16Sep 18, 1 PM — 25 pieces · 25 comments — Bluesky 25Sep 18, 3 PM — 12 pieces · 12 comments — Bluesky 12Sep 18, 5 PM — 6 pieces · 6 comments — Bluesky 6Sep 18, 7 PM — 3 pieces · 3 comments — Bluesky 3Sep 18, 9 PM — 3 pieces · 3 comments — Bluesky 3Sep 18, 11 PM — 1 piece · 1 comment — Bluesky 1Sep 19, 1 AM — 2 pieces · 2 comments — Bluesky 2Sep 19, 3 AM — 1 piece · 1 comment — Bluesky 1Sep 19, 5 AM — 2 pieces · 2 comments — Bluesky 2Sep 19, 7 AM — 1 piece · 1 comment — Bluesky 1Sep 19, 9 AM — quietSep 19, 11 AM — quietSep 19, 1 PM — quietSep 19, 3 PM — quietSep 19, 5 PM — quietSep 19, 7 PM — quietSep 19, 9 PM — quietSep 19, 11 PM — quietSep 20, 1 AM — quietSep 20, 3 AM — quietSep 20, 5 AM — quietSep 20, 7 AM — quietSep 20, 9 AM — quietSep 20, 11 AM — quietSep 20, 1 PM — quietSep 20, 3 PM — quietSep 20, 5 PM — quietSep 20, 7 PM — quietSep 20, 9 PM — quietSep 20, 11 PM — quietSep 21, 1 AM — quietSep 21, 3 AM — quietSep 21, 5 AM — quietSep 21, 7 AM — quietSep 21, 9 AM — quietSep 21, 11 AM — quietSep 21, 1 PM — quietSep 21, 3 PM — quietSep 21, 5 PM — quietSep 21, 7 PM — quietSep 21, 9 PM — quietSep 21, 11 PM — quietSep 22, 1 AM — quietSep 22, 3 AM — quietSep 22, 5 AM — quietSep 22, 7 AM — quietSep 22, 9 AM — quietSep 22, 11 AM — quietSep 22, 1 PM — quietSep 22, 3 PM — quietSep 22, 5 PM — quietSep 22, 7 PM — quietSep 22, 9 PM — quietSep 22, 11 PM — quietYesterday, 1 AM — quietYesterday, 3 AM — quietYesterday, 5 AM — quietYesterday, 7 AM — quietYesterday, 9 AM — quietYesterday, 11 AM — quietYesterday, 1 PM — quietYesterday, 3 PM — quietYesterday, 5 PM — quietYesterday, 7 PM — quietYesterday, 9 PM — quietYesterday, 11 PM — quietToday, 1 AM — quiet 1–2
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    Online conversation spirals into climate despair and criticism

    Responses flood in with expressions of alarm and frustration, with many commenters characterizing humanity's inaction as existentially reckless and politicians as indifferent to ecological warnings.

    “How stupid is humanity. Extinction stupid.”
    — robertjeff57-58.bsky.social
    • Wow How stupid is humanity Extinction stupid

      robertjeff57-58.bsky.socialBluesky5d ago41▲view on Bluesky ↗
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    • 💯! Smart enough to see the cliff. Stupid enough to keep accelerating.🤬🌎

      xtrahope1515.bsky.socialBluesky5d ago33▲view on Bluesky ↗
    • This truly makes me sick to my stomach. Destruction of trees is so horrific. I can't watch or listen to one being chopped down. I adore trees. They're magical. 💔

      wrennreed.bsky.socialBluesky5d ago28▲view on Bluesky ↗
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    Scientist posts Amazon deforestation warning on Bluesky

    A post by abilutangwa highlights that the Amazon has already been cleared 17%, approaching the critical 20-25% threshold beyond which scientists warn the forest becomes irreversibly destabilized.

    “Scientists warned for years: if we clear 20-25% of the Amazon, we cross the point of no return. We've already cleared 17%. We are right on the edge.”
    — abilutangwa.bsky.social
    • abilutangwa.bsky.social

      Scientists warned for years: if we clear 20-25% of the Amazon, we cross the point of no return. We've already cleared 17%. We are right on the edge.

      abilutangwa.bsky.socialBluesky5d ago4.2k▲view on Bluesky ↗
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    • No one in power cares my man.. we will have to suffer first

      markos70.bsky.socialBluesky5d ago29▲view on Bluesky ↗
    • 😆 is that all theyre worried about 1. Further amplified anti neutrino impact to core 2. Hlobal subduction and a simultaneous volcanic events 3. Global heating leading to unbearable and beyond ez bake oven deadly 4. Inc glacial melt, further coagulation, and evaporative lower saline mix. Incrain💯

      antichristhunter.bsky.socialBluesky5d agoview on Bluesky ↗
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What people are saying 19 voices from 1 site · best of 93 · verbatim