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Second Circuit OKs Warrantless Phone Searches at US Borders

Court of Appeals ruling allows border agents to search travelers' devices without suspicion, rejecting First Amendment arguments.

What to know

  • Second Circuit ruled border agents can search phones without warrants or suspicion; court rejected constitutional arguments from First Amendment and privacy advocates.
  • Knight Institute and journalism organizations argue the decision endangers confidential sources and chills protected speech for journalists and ordinary travelers.
  • Decision stems from United States v. Alisigwe, where two warrantless phone searches at the border yielded evidence the government used in prosecution.

The dispute Whether the ruling's actual scope is limited to manual searches without forensic tools, or whether it permits deeper device inspection. · positions read across 11 posts and comments

many voices

Burner phones and data encryption offer practical protection for travelers and journalists.

  • “Take a burner phone to the airport (and elsewhere?), and since devices are subject to warrantless search anywhere and everywhere, keep your data at home and encrypted.”

    k310 · Hacker News ↗
some voices

Practical workarounds are unrealistic for most travelers who need their devices abroad.

  • “To the extent that our smartphones are a very helpful device to have in our day-to-day lives at home, they're even more useful in a foreign country where they become our only available computing device.”

    rconti · Hacker News ↗
some voices

The ruling reflects and extends a broader constitutional problem: a 100-mile border zone where normal protections do not apply.

  • “it's not just a device problem, the whole constitution is suspended 100 miles around the entire border of the US, we have no rights”

    ck2 · Hacker News ↗

Second Circuit Court of Appeals Ruling courtKnight First Amendment Institute at Columbia University Amicus curiaeReporters Committee for Freedom of the Press Amicus curiaeScott Wilkens Senior counsel, Knight First Amendment Institute

How it unfolded 1 development · click the chart to see its coverage articlespostscomments

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Sep 19Sep 20Sep 21Sep 22yesterdaynow · 5:51 AM ET
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    “Today's decision leaves Americans' most sensitive information open to search at the border without any suspicion at all.”
    — Scott Wilkens, senior counsel at the Knight First Amendment Institute
    1. first by HN Frontpage, 5d ago

    • Everyone please read Surveillance Self Defense from EFF [0]My advice, take a burner phone to the airport (and elsewhere?), and since devices are subject to warrantless search anywhere and everywhere, via exceptions to the fourth amendment [1] (the constitution seems designed to be bent or outright ignored), keep your data at home and encrypted…

      k310Hacker News5d agoview on Hacker News ↗
    2 more of the top 3 · 11 posts in this stretch
    • The resources you link to are helpful; however, this is not really practical advice for most people most of the time. To the extent that our smartphones are a very helpful device to have in our day-to-day lives at home, they're even more useful in a foreign country where they become our only available computing device; indispensable for keeping in…

      rcontiHacker News5d agoview on Hacker News ↗
    • it's not just a device problem, the whole constitution is suspended 100 miles around the entire border of the US, we have no rights(look at FLORIDA, the entire state!)*

      ck2Hacker News5d agoview on Hacker News ↗
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  2. background

    District court denies motion to suppress phone evidence from border searches — In United States v. Alisigwe, a district court refused to suppress evidence obtained from two warrantless searches of the defendant's cell phone at the border.

What people are saying 8 voices from 1 site · best of 11 · verbatim

Still unanswered
  • Does this ruling allow authorities to use forensic tools on devices, or only manual searches?
  • Does the ruling apply equally to U.S. citizens and non-citizens?
  • If a traveler refuses to unlock their phone, can border agents use forensics tools without a warrant after confiscation?