Designer argues AI posters can avoid repetitive defaults with better prompting
John Hartnup tests ChatGPT's ability to generate varied poster styles, prompting discussion on whether AI can overcome uniformity in creative work.
What to know
- Designer John Hartnup argues AI can generate diverse poster styles—Bauhaus, Swiss, risograph, brutalist—when given specific design prompts, challenging the notion that AI-generated design is inherently homogeneous.
- Critics counter that beneath style variations, AI posters retain recognizable structural uniformity: identical layout patterns, icon-plus-text arrangements, and a failure to reject obvious stereotypes that human designers would avoid as clichéd.
- The debate splits between those who see AI as a practical solution for budget-constrained small businesses (where it outperforms low-cost freelancers) and those who view AI-generated work as signaling low effort and lack of genuine creative vision.
- Consumers report actively avoiding businesses that use AI-generated imagery, viewing it as a mark of unwillingness to invest care—with some preferring hand-drawn or amateur work as more authentic than polished AI output.
The dispute Whether AI design tools represent a practical necessity that frees resource-constrained creators from worse alternatives, or a cultural compromise that lets businesses avoid genuine creative effort and alienates consumers who see AI imagery as inauthentic. · positions read across 115 posts and comments
Style variation doesn't solve the deeper problem of AI creative homogeneity and lack of originality.
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“The author claims that the AI posters don't have to be horrible, but fail to see that the dozen variations generated are not distinctive—they still have the same AI uniformity and smell”
petetnt · Hacker News ↗
AI is a practical necessity for small businesses that cannot afford professional designers and outperforms budget freelancers.
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“The average freelance designer online is significantly worse than AI…a small local event or business probably won't have the budget to hire them”
ajjenkins · Hacker News ↗
AI-generated work signals low effort and lack of care; consumers prefer authenticity even in amateur or hand-drawn designs.
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“Using AI generated bullshit just shows that you really dont want to put in the work to produce something actually charming…a food menu drawn by a toddler was infinitely more sympathetic”
sevenzero · Hacker News ↗
John Hartnup Designer, article authorChatGPT AI model used for poster generation
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Consumers report avoiding restaurants with AI-generated food imagery
A user reports that while traveling in Japan with friends, the group actively avoided small restaurants displaying AI-generated food images, viewing the use of AI as a signal that the business didn't care enough to invest genuine effort. They note that even a food menu drawn by a toddler felt 'infinitely more sympathetic' than AI-generated content.
“Using AI generated bullshit just shows that you really dont want to put in the work to produce something actually charming…a food menu drawn by a toddler…was infinitely more sympathetic…”
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It sure seems like, while LLMs and diffusion models won't completely eradicate the middle class, the bar has now risen significantly to actually contribute in a lot of areas.For programmers, sure SV startups and actual software-first shops are probably only augments with LLMs and not replacing. But what % of software engineers are employed in such…
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You’re comparing the sub-minimum-wage offshore template jockeys to average designers, not “high end” designers. High-end designers do not make posters for local events.It would be like saying off-shore outsource coders are average coders, and anyone making anything close to a reasonable dev salary in this job market was a high-falutin’ luxury…
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A lot of people in the comments say that the supposedly better examples in the article are still “horrible” because they can tell they’re AI and point to things that the AI did “wrong” and a human artist would do better.That may be true if you’re working with a top of the line artist, but in my experience the average freelance designer online is…
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Users cite rendering errors and technical mistakes in AI poster details
Commenters point to specific technical failures in AI-generated posters—like a 'deformed wireframe sphere' in a 90s drum-and-bass style example where the lines should be regular and accurate to the era's aesthetic. These mistakes reveal the AI's lack of understanding of period-appropriate execution and design rules.
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The only ones that aren't horrible manage that because they're so bland there's nothing to go wrong. Look at an example with some detail, the "Now please make one in the style of a 90s drum n bass gig flyer, with early 3D/fractal computer imagery" poster.At the top of the page we have a deformed wireframe sphere. A wireframe sphere is…
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This isn’t a web UI, it doesn’t need icons.But more importantly, if you aren’t the kind of person who could make a halfway decent text only poster before, you are going to make the posters at the top of the article. Those are objectively harder to read than something typed up in word.You aren’t going to know to tell the AI to “ Go for a clean…
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> But AI has absolutely no problem with going with the cheesiest, most overused trope.Considering your prompt fits exactly that description I think the AI delivered perfectly. Try using some actual design language and see how well it does.
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Some commenters defend AI posters for practical and economic reasons
Other users argue that while top human designers may produce better work, most small businesses and events cannot afford them. Several report that AI-generated designs consistently outperform low-budget freelance designers on platforms like Fiverr, making AI the pragmatic choice for those without design budgets.
“The average freelance designer online is significantly worse than AI…a small local event or business probably won't have the budget to hire them…”
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I find it kinda funny that even "smartest", most capable models often have a very hard time going beyond surface-level, top-of-mind associations, when faced with creative tasks.Of course, a "Japanese Minimal Poster" has a sakura and a stylized flag of Japan, duhA human designer would probably think that "Japan -> sakura" and "Japan -> Japanese…
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At a certain point, pottery that looked like a child made it became the high end, because well-executed pottery was coming out of machines.We've officially reached that point with advertisements. Save your tokens. Hire your 9-year-old niece to draw the poster by hand and you'll likely get a far better reaction from most people. Nobody goes to a…
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Buried at the end of the article the author linked a library of different art styles applied to the same poster content. Found some new cool art styles to try out in the future.
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Commenters argue AI defaults to obvious stereotypes rather than original thinking
Users note that AI models reliably select surface-level, stereotypical associations—a 'Japanese Minimal' style defaults to sakura flowers and the Japanese flag—because those tropes are statistically overrepresented in training data. Human designers would typically reject such clichés as boring and seek fresher approaches.
“A human designer would probably think that 'Japan → sakura' and 'Japan → Japanese flag' are way too obvious, too banal, too stereotypical…And then they would probably sit for a while and try to think of something fresher…”
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I see, across my city and others I visit, every bar/restaurant/etc now has low effort one shot posters, menus, etc, some with old chatgpt nonsense text / errors. It's everywhere. All that brown-ish hue food 'pictures' etc. I mean 'authentic Pizza napolitana!' and then an AI generated picture of said pizza... One of them (an Italy born Italian…
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What's interesting is that you can't do the same with long-form AI prose. You can ask any given LLM to write in different styles, but it will always fall back on the same rhetorical and structural techniques, so the "new style" is strictly surface-level. In fact, it's getting worse over time -- especially in Claude from Opus 4.6 --> Opus 5.I…
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Critics say AI layout patterns are indistinguishable from template design
Commenters observe that beneath style changes, all AI-generated posters share the same underlying structure—icon-plus-text layouts for event details, similar overall composition—making them feel interchangeable despite different visual treatments. The consistency is compared to Windows XP theme skins: visually different but structurally identical.
“All have that icon+text style…it's sort of like Windows XP visual styles, no matter how different they are the overall layout is still recognisably Windows…”
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But the thing is, all have that icon+text style in the "tombola, cakes and drinks..." part. If I wanted to be distinctive, this is what I would have tried to get rid of at first, not the "visual style" (it's sort of like Windows XP visual styles, no matter how different they are the overall layout is still recognisably Windows).
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It’s not complicated - the default style signals low effort. Why should I get excited about the village fete if the organizers put in the barest minimum of effort?But there’s another reason it drives people crazy - it’s low effort trying to present as high effort. If the sign was simple Comic Sans then it would at least be charmingly honest.
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Commenters argue AI posters remain fundamentally uniform despite style variations
Multiple Hacker News users push back on Hartnup's premise, arguing that while the poster examples vary in typography and imagery, they retain a recognizable 'AI uniformity' and sameness that no amount of prompt refinement can overcome. Commenters note the layouts, icon arrangements, and overall aesthetic still signal low effort and lack human vision.
“The author claims that the AI posters don't have to be horrible, but fail to see that the dozen variations generated are not distinctive…they still have the same AI uniformity and smell as the crappy restaurant poster…”
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The author claims that the AI posters don’t have to be horrible, but fail to see that the dozen variations generated are not distinctive - they might have somewhat different typography or imaginary, but still have the same AI uniformity and smell as the crappy restaurant poster you see on the street. The core issue is not only technical, but also…
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Article gains traction on Hacker News
The article surfaces on Hacker News frontpage with 226 points and 147 comments, sparking debate about whether varied AI design aesthetics solve the underlying problem of AI-generated creative work feeling generic and lacking human intentionality.
“The problem is that once you've seen that style 20 times it starts to irritate just from the sheer repetition.”
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Hartnup publishes article on varied AI poster design — Designer John Hartnup posts an article arguing that AI-generated event posters don't inherently need to be homogeneous. He demonstrates prompting ChatGPT to generate a spring fayre poster in multiple distinct design styles—Bauhaus/Modernist, Swiss, Contemporary Editorial, Risograph, Cut Paper/Collage, Botanical Scientific, and Brutalist—showing that specificity in prompts can produce visually different outputs.
What people are saying 18 voices from 1 site · best of 115 · verbatim
- Can better prompting or different AI models overcome the structural uniformity in AI-generated layouts, or is homogeneity baked into how language models approach creative tasks?
- At what budget threshold do human designers become affordable enough to prefer over AI, and does this vary by industry or geography?
- Do consumers' reactions against AI imagery reflect genuine aesthetic preference, cultural backlash, or something else—and will this sentiment change as AI output improves?
- Sep 20
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I am impressed by the number of artists that follow HN even outnumbering programmers. Programmers are not artists, artists see the world in colors while we see it in black and white (just look at this page). There are a few really great artist/programmers among us but they're a very rare specimenFor us programmers, something maybe be good enough…
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If anything that shows that AI doesn't replace skilled people. It accelerates the production of these assets, still requires skill and knowledge to produce good results.Up until recently, you'd pay someone else to create these. The organizer of an event or concert doesn't have the artistic talent to create these, nor skills in design/Photoshop…
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As somebody who made a poster for an event just few days ago... I find it funny that this probably took just as long as without AI while probably going through a less rewarding process with little control and very limited learning.A non professional design would probably take few hours doing it the very first time, discovering the software to do…
- Sep 19
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You’re absolutely right! (See what I did, there?)I mentioned something similar, in a previous comment.The sad part, is that the same thing is likely to happen to design, as is already happening with software development.The junior training track is going to get the bottom ripped out. Established outfits like Pentagram will do fine, but lesser…
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It used to be that all the available art generation systems would make mistakes on text, making the letters into weirdly shaped non-letter blobs and/or having strange typos all over the place (that were probably from getting the letter-shapes confused rather than not knowing how to spell words).How exactly did that get fixed? It seems like…
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I think basically AI posters are bad because when given freedom to the model (which is what people will do when just asking "make me a poster for my coffee shop"), the model will always tend to do the same design style. So yes, as this article says, with better prompting you CAN get better results. The other problem I think is tool calling…
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There's a similar problem with AI-generated video, but it's in the time dimension. There's a huge genre of Asian vertical dramas, and now about 17,000 a day are being cranked out by AI systems. But there are maybe ten major plots. "Lost daughter of rich family comes home" appears over and over. There are longer videos where the plot gets lost. I…
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Removing as many possible steps to a craft makes it far less personal. Disconnecting the human from the end product.I would never attend an event with an entirely generated poster becuase that tells me you didn't care enough, and that attitude is probably permeating into the rest of the event.Similarly, back before these models existed, I'd never…
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One thing I've noticed with AI posters is that they're all "flat" in terms of attention. For whatever reason, they result in a post where every part is on the same level visually, and your eye does not get drawn to anything. You can't immediately see what is and isn't important.The bad posters are absolute disasters in this regard. (And completely…
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Is there an explanation for why AI images, or posters, look "AI"? What I mean is that even some of the better ones, that I quite like, have a distinct AI look that I can’t quite put my finger on.Some elements are, the very saturated color or being overly busy, but not all images have these tells, and not all of them.For a while I thought it was…
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Absolutely. I've had the identical experience hiring artists for game art/UI. Every once in a while you find an artist who is stellar but most everyone else is not that good.The TFA is pointing to a prompting skills/creativity issue, but I get equally frustrated with hired artists as with genAI image models. Even with skilled human artists…
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I'm a big fan of FixIt Clinics, i.e. community repair workshops. Here's an example of one of their posters:https://allevents.in/mattapan/fix-it-clinic/200026636930752Here's what I like about it: it communicates. What, when, and where. And crucially, photos showing what the event looks like. Photos of real people fixing real things.The author…
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I work in a copy-print center where we take orders for business card, posters, flyers, invitations, and all sorts like that. Lately, I have been getting more and more AI generated artwork for these flyers and business cards, and they are not sized correctly. I can tell it's AI generated not from style, layout, or even hallucinations, but just the…
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This is one of the most interesting post I've seen, and that's the way people should work with AI. A brainstorming session, with background and references, with broad knowledge of the field, then with clear instructions on how to proceed, different designs, propositions out of the ordinary, etcI've been doing that for the last six months and the…
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Ach, idk. On average people have horrible design aesthetics, yet are now so arrogant about it, because they feel confident that their newly found ability to spot AI design equates to being able to spot bad design.No, you silly geese. What you are able to spot is when somebody uses AI poorly and you think that's you developing taste. It's the…
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The original posters were better than any of the mockups.Not because they looked good, but because they used a design language that "at-a-glance" said what the event was. Sure, the designers republic/etc looked less commonplace, but if I was looking for a fun local faire I would absolutely never notice those posters and if I went i'd assume it was…
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Word processors are designed to maximise readability, handling things like alignment and white space with zero effort from the user.These posters don't have the feature of readability. They inconsistently apply the required design principles for this. Removing some of the clutter helps, but a WordArt poster from 1992 is still a better final…
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To me if you ask to a 10 years old kid and give him a PC with Microsoft Paint on it it will you will have a much better result than any AI-generated option in the post. If there are graphics designer that produce a worse result of what AI creates, it's because they probably use AI as well.The problem of AI generated stuff (we see the problem of…