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Leaked survey suggests Xbox weighing physical disc support for next-gen "Project Helix" console

A reportedly leaked Xbox Insider Hub survey asks fans to rate how necessary a physical disc drive is for Microsoft's next console, as Sony moves to end disc manufacturing by 2028.

What to know

  • The report rests on screenshots from a now-deleted X post, not an official Microsoft statement, and it's unclear whether other Xbox Insiders received the same survey questions.
  • Sony has already committed to ending physical PlayStation disc manufacturing by 2028, raising the question of whether Xbox will follow or differentiate itself by keeping disc support.
  • Even if Project Helix includes a disc drive, it may only support backward-compatible older Xbox discs rather than new physical game releases.
  • Xbox's disc-to-digital program and recent financial reports are cited as context for why the company may be leaning digital-first despite the survey.

The dispute Whether Microsoft's survey reflects a genuine intention to keep physical discs on Project Helix or is a low-cost way to gauge/placate fan sentiment without committing to a disc drive. · positions read across 13 posts and comments

many voices

Fans want continued physical disc support for games and other media, and would favor Xbox over PlayStation for offering it.

  • “Even if for whatever reason the next generation doesn't have physical games, it would be nice to have a drive in a new console for other forms of media.”

    PKozyra64 · Reddit ↗
some voices

Skeptical that either company genuinely wants to preserve physical media rather than exploit the goodwill for marketing.

  • “will it happen? Maybe in a way temporsry but more a gotcha moment to get some fans microsoft scared away but both want discless so more monopoly and money for themselves. So screw em both”

    Consistent_Run8637 · Reddit ↗
some voices

Discs remain a cheaper, practical storage medium than flash memory given growing game sizes, though the cost gap may narrow.

  • “A 100gb bluray can be at most $3-4 to use, a 128gb express SD card which is similar speeds to what nintendo needs is like $30-40.”

    Swiperrr · Reddit ↗

Microsoft/Xbox Console makerSony Competing console maker (PlayStation)@XboxTimDog X user / leakerPower Up Gaming Outlet that first reported the leaked survey

Leaked survey suggests Xbox weighing physical disc support for next-gen "Project Helix" console
Polygon

How it unfolded 3 developments, newest first · click a bar or a number to jump articlespostscomments

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  1. 3

    Polygon covers the leak, ties it to Xbox's financial pressures

    Polygon reiterates the Power Up Gaming report, noting Microsoft has not confirmed whether Project Helix will go all-digital and framing physical disc support as a potential competitive advantage over the PlayStation 6 given Sony's move away from discs.

    “Xbox has reportedly been asking some players whether physical disc support would be a feature they'd want to see in its next console.”
    — Polygon
    1. first by Polygon, 1d ago

    • I didnt read it so cant say, but i not picking sides, screw microsoft and sony and wont be getting either. Am i for physical discs yes, will it happen? Maybe in a way temporsry but more a gotcha moment to get some fans microsoft scared away but both want discless so more monopoly and money for themselves. So screw em both

      Consistent_Run8637r/gaming2d agoview on r/gaming ↗
    2 more of the top 3 · 8 posts in this stretch
    • The problem of an add-on becomes does it serve as reasonable enticement for publishers to print discs? That's going to be a pretty marginal install rate, if it's not built into at least one of the SKUs.

      Lonely-Ocelot-2417r/gaming2d agoview on r/gaming ↗
    • Oh I wonder what my answer would be- OF COURSE YES THAT WOULD ALREADY BE A ADVANTAGE IT WOULD HAVE OVER THE PS6

      Epic1ForLifer/gaming2d agoview on r/gaming ↗
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    Reddit users debate physical media's future on next-gen consoles

    Commenters weigh in on the leak, some expressing hope for continued disc support (including backward compatibility and other media), others arguing physical discs are cheaper per-gigabyte than flash storage, and some voicing skepticism that either Microsoft or Sony genuinely wants to keep physical media alive.

    “Even if for whatever reason the next generation doesn't have physical games, it would be nice to have a drive in a new console for other forms of media.”
    — PKozyra64
    • Even if for whatever reason the next generation doesn't have physical games, it would be nice to have a drive in a new console for other forms of media. I gave my dad my Xbox One X and he's loving it that I can play all his CDs, DVDs and now he is getting into Blu-Ray. The new console could also continue to support the physical disc, backwards…

      PKozyra64r/gaming2d agoview on r/gaming ↗
    2 more of the top 3 · 5 posts in this stretch
    • They're also crazy expensive compared to disks. A 100gb bluray can be at most $3-4 to use, a 128gb express SD card which is similar speeds to what nintendo needs is like $30-40. Sure mass production can get that price down a bit but right now flash memory is EXPENSIVE.

      Swiperrrr/gaming2d agoview on r/gaming ↗
    • Fair enough, at least we agree on SD Cards. That said, some games are exceed 100GB's in total downloaded format so the issue still stands, just delayed further. AI Upscaling may save us in the ever growing need for storage but we'll see.

      maxfields2000r/gaming2d agoview on r/gaming ↗
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    Power Up Gaming reports leaked Xbox survey on disc support

    Citing a now-deleted post from X user @XboxTimDog, Power Up Gaming publishes images purporting to show an Xbox Insider Hub survey asking fans to rate next-gen Xbox features, including physical disc installation, on a scale of Not Necessary, Nice to Have, or Must Have.

    “install games from a physical disc…”
    — Xbox Insider survey (via @XboxTimDog)

What people are saying 7 voices from 1 site · best of 13 · verbatim

Still unanswered
  • Will other Xbox Insiders confirm receiving the same physical-disc survey question?
  • If Project Helix has a disc drive, will it support new physical game releases or only legacy backward compatibility?