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ICE stops listing detainees with final removal orders in public locator system

AP reports ICE quietly dropped thousands of detainees from its online locator on Sept. 15, cutting off lawyers and families as deportations accelerate.

What to know

  • ICE stopped listing most detainees with final removal orders in its public Online Detainee Locator System starting Sept. 15, an unannounced change confirmed by AP through current and former officials.
  • Nearly 16,000 people booked into ICE detention in July — over a third of that month's bookings — had final removal orders, meaning the change affects a large share of the detained population.
  • Lawyers say the move blocks last-minute legal challenges, especially habeas petitions, because attorneys can no longer track which facility or federal district holds their client.
  • Facilities in Adelanto, Minneapolis, New York City and suburban Chicago are exempt because courts have separately ordered ICE to keep listing detainees there.

The dispute There is little disagreement on the facts or the outrage; the only tension is whether legal challenges will actually stop the practice, with some doubting courts will intervene quickly. · positions read across 227 posts and comments

most voices

This is an authoritarian tactic of 'disappearing' people that signals a broader turn toward repression.

  • “how long will we tolerate this regime disappearing our neighbors”

    cynlawless.bsky.social · Bluesky ↗
many voices

The change is a concrete legal problem because it will block habeas petitions and severs attorney-client contact.

  • “ICE's new policy is unprecedented... This will severely interfere with legal access.”

    reichlinmelnick.bsky.social · Bluesky ↗
some voices

The response should be political and structural: vote Republicans out or abolish ICE.

  • “Republicans MUST BE TROUNCED this November. They need to be far out of power and brought before juries for their crimes against humanity and our Constitution.”

    kimoco.bsky.social · Bluesky ↗

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) federal agency executing the policyDepartment of Homeland SecurityDepartment of Homeland Security ICE's parent agencyGreg Chen Senior director of government relations, American Immigration Lawyers AssociationAaron Reichlin-Melnick (reichlinmelnick.bsky.social) Immigration policy analystGillian Brockell (gillianbrockell.com) Journalist/advocate on BlueskyDonald TrumpDonald Trump U.S. President

ICE stops listing detainees with final removal orders in public locator system
Philadelphia Inquirer

How it unfolded 4 developments, newest first · click a bar or a number to jump articlespostscomments

Peak 72 pieces in one hour at Sep 21, 1 PM; 266 pieces over 3 days (21 articles · 43 posts · 202 comments) Sep 20, 7 PM — 1 piece · 1 article — Mastodon 1Sep 20, 8 PM — quietSep 20, 9 PM — quietSep 20, 10 PM — quietSep 20, 11 PM — quietSep 21, 12 AM — quietSep 21, 1 AM — quietSep 21, 2 AM — quietSep 21, 3 AM — quietSep 21, 4 AM — quietSep 21, 5 AM — quietSep 21, 6 AM — quietSep 21, 7 AM — quietSep 21, 8 AM — quietSep 21, 9 AM — quietSep 21, 10 AM — quietSep 21, 11 AM — 5 pieces · 5 articles — Newswires 5Sep 21, 12 PM — 11 pieces · 5 articles · 5 posts · 1 comment — Newswires 4, Bluesky 4, Mastodon 2, +1 moreSep 21, 1 PM — 72 pieces · 1 article · 5 posts · 66 comments — Bluesky 67, Mastodon 3, Reddit 1, +1 moreSep 21, 2 PM — 32 pieces · 2 articles · 6 posts · 24 comments — Bluesky 27, Mastodon 3, Newswires 2Sep 21, 3 PM — 20 pieces · 2 articles · 4 posts · 14 comments — Bluesky 15, Newswires 2, Reddit 2, +1 moreSep 21, 4 PM — 7 pieces · 7 comments — Bluesky 7Sep 21, 5 PM — 7 pieces · 1 article · 4 posts · 2 comments — Mastodon 4, Bluesky 2, Newswires 1Sep 21, 6 PM — 8 pieces · 8 comments — Bluesky 5, Reddit 3Sep 21, 7 PM — 6 pieces · 1 article · 3 posts · 2 comments — Mastodon 4, Bluesky 2Sep 21, 8 PM — 16 pieces · 4 posts · 12 comments — Bluesky 13, Mastodon 2, Reddit 1Sep 21, 9 PM — 16 pieces · 2 posts · 14 comments — Bluesky 14, Mastodon 2Sep 21, 10 PM — 8 pieces · 8 comments — Bluesky 8Sep 21, 11 PM — 3 pieces · 2 posts · 1 comment — Mastodon 2, Bluesky 1Sep 22, 12 AM — 3 pieces · 3 comments — Bluesky 3Sep 22, 1 AM — 5 pieces · 1 post · 4 comments — Bluesky 4, Mastodon 1Sep 22, 2 AM — 2 pieces · 2 comments — Bluesky 2Sep 22, 3 AM — quietSep 22, 4 AM — quietSep 22, 5 AM — 3 pieces · 1 article · 2 comments — Bluesky 2, Newswires 1Sep 22, 6 AM — 3 pieces · 1 post · 2 comments — Bluesky 1, Mastodon 1, Reddit 1Sep 22, 7 AM — 2 pieces · 1 post · 1 comment — Bluesky 1, Mastodon 1Sep 22, 8 AM — 4 pieces · 1 post · 3 comments — Bluesky 4Sep 22, 9 AM — 1 piece · 1 comment — Bluesky 1Sep 22, 10 AM — 1 piece · 1 comment — Bluesky 1Sep 22, 11 AM — quietSep 22, 12 PM — 3 pieces · 1 post · 2 comments — Bluesky 3Sep 22, 1 PM — 1 piece · 1 comment — Bluesky 1Sep 22, 2 PM — 8 pieces · 1 post · 7 comments — Bluesky 8Sep 22, 3 PM — 2 pieces · 2 comments — Bluesky 2Sep 22, 4 PM — 2 pieces · 2 comments — Bluesky 2Sep 22, 5 PM — 2 pieces · 2 comments — Bluesky 2Sep 22, 6 PM — 1 piece · 1 comment — Bluesky 1Sep 22, 7 PM — 1 piece · 1 comment — Bluesky 1Sep 22, 8 PM — quietSep 22, 9 PM — 2 pieces · 2 comments — Bluesky 2Sep 22, 10 PM — quietSep 22, 11 PM — 2 pieces · 2 comments — Bluesky 2Yesterday, 12 AM — quietYesterday, 1 AM — quietYesterday, 2 AM — quietYesterday, 3 AM — quietYesterday, 4 AM — quietYesterday, 5 AM — quietYesterday, 6 AM — quietYesterday, 7 AM — quietYesterday, 8 AM — 2 pieces · 2 comments — Bluesky 2Yesterday, 9 AM — quietYesterday, 10 AM — quietYesterday, 11 AM — 1 piece · 1 article — Newswires 1Yesterday, 12 PM — quietYesterday, 1 PM — quietYesterday, 2 PM — quietYesterday, 3 PM — quietYesterday, 4 PM — 2 pieces · 1 article · 1 post — Mastodon 1, Newswires 1Yesterday, 5 PM — quietYesterday, 6 PM — quietYesterday, 7 PM — quietYesterday, 8 PM — quietYesterday, 9 PM — 1 piece · 1 post — Mastodon 1Yesterday, 10 PM — quietYesterday, 11 PM — quietToday, 12 AM — quiet 1–4
Sep 21Sep 22yesterdaynow · 1:01 AM ET
  1. 4

    Social media reaction wave calls policy authoritarian

    Bluesky and mastodon users reacted with alarm, comparing the practice to disappearances under authoritarian regimes and calling for political and legal pushback, as coverage spread across wire-service outlets nationwide.

    • senseidai.bsky.social

      Disappearing people is what happens in authoritarian regimes. How much you wanna bet this is the brainchild of Stephen Miller? #DemVoice1 #ProudBlue #Pinks #TrumpIsACriminal

      senseidai.bsky.socialBluesky1d ago507▲view on Bluesky ↗
    2 more of the top 3 · 184 posts in this stretch
    • heidilifeldman@mastodon.social

      The U.S. news today is nuts. I expect a similar pace and intensity from now through Election Day, probably beyond through Jan 3. Even amongst the swirl, though, this report of ICE/DHS latest anti-rule-of-law doings stands out. https:// apnews.com/article/ice-detaine e-locator-disappear-removal-orders-c3329a70bce424879bc5880b286c019c People in the…

      heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialMastodon2d ago59▲view on Mastodon ↗
    • I think it's much more likely that one day, some government bureaucrat finds an accidentally retained duplicate of a digital ledger of some kind documenting the number of bodies incinerated at certain camps run by ICE/DHS, and then we'll finally know where all the people disappeared to. Because they aren't all making it back to their home…

      Fulano_MK1r/news2d agoview on r/news ↗
    all of them →
  2. 3

    Advocates warn habeas petitions become nearly impossible

    Journalist Gillian Brockell and others said attorneys will no longer know which federal district a detainee has been moved to, undermining habeas litigation, and offered to help track deportation flights via Signal and Habeas Flight Watch.

    “This will make it nearly impossible to file habeas petitions, because attorneys won’t even know what federal district their client has been moved to to stage for their removal.”
    — gillianbrockell.com
    • gillianbrockell.com

      This will make it nearly impossible to file habeas petitions, because attorneys won’t even know what federal district their client has been moved to to stage for their removal. Something like a third of all people in ICE custody.

      gillianbrockell.comBluesky2d ago3.3k▲view on Bluesky ↗
    2 more of the top 3 · 39 posts in this stretch
    • Nonya_Bidniss@infosec.exchange

      # ICE has begun electronically "disappearing" people in the agency's custody who have final orders of removal. As of last week, anyone jailed by ICE with a final order of removal will NOT appear in the ICE Online Detainee Locator System, making them effectively vanish. https:// apnews.com/article/ice-detaine…

      Nonya_Bidniss@infosec.exchangeMastodon2d ago1▲view on Mastodon ↗
    • reichlinmelnick.bsky.social

      ICE's new policy is unprecedented. People who have detained for months are suddenly disappearing from the locator system — even if they haven't been moved. And people newly arrested are not showing up at all, their location now hidden from view. This will severely interfere with legal access.

      reichlinmelnick.bsky.socialBluesky2d ago1.2k▲view on Bluesky ↗
    all of them →
  3. 2

    Immigration analyst confirms ICE is 'disappearing' detainees

    Aaron Reichlin-Melnick posted that AP's reporting confirms ICE is electronically making detainees with final orders of removal vanish from public view, and that the change affects roughly a third of people in ICE custody.

    “NEW: apnews.com confirms that ICE has begun electronically "disappearing" people in the agency's custody who have final orders of removal.”
    — reichlinmelnick.bsky.social
    • reichlinmelnick.bsky.social

      NEW: @apnews.com confirms that ICE has begun electronically "disappearing" people in the agency's custody who have final orders of removal. As of last week, anyone jailed by ICE with a final order of removal will NOT appear in the ICE Online Detainee Locator System, making them effectively vanish.

      reichlinmelnick.bsky.socialBluesky2d ago7.5k▲view on Bluesky ↗
    2 more of the top 3 · 3 posts in this stretch
    • how long will we tolerate this regime disappearing our neighbors

      cynlawless.bsky.socialBluesky2d ago49▲view on Bluesky ↗
    • adamjst.bsky.social

      Have to think this is the admin's counter to the surge in habeas petitions.

      adamjst.bsky.socialBluesky2d ago36▲view on Bluesky ↗
    all of them →
  4. 1

    AP publishes exclusive confirming the practice

    The Associated Press reported the change is unannounced and applies to detainees with final removal orders, citing ICE data showing nearly 16,000 people booked in July alone were subject to such orders — more than a third of bookings that month.

    “Families are freaking out because they think the person has been deported and they don’t know where the person might be.”
    — Greg Chen
    1. first by Boston Globe, 2d ago · also Washington Post, Guardian, HuffPost, Philadelphia Inquirer, Orlando Sentinel, Baltimore Sun +2

      1 more headline
    • yaelschacher.bsky.social

      ICE is now disappearing people within the U.S. detention system

      yaelschacher.bsky.socialBluesky2d ago72▲view on Bluesky ↗
  5. background

    Lawyers notice clients vanish; AILA warns members — Immigration lawyers contacted by AP confirmed their clients disappeared from the locator that week, and the American Immigration Lawyers Association warned its members about the change on Friday.

  6. background

    ICE removes final-removal-order detainees from public locator — ICE quietly stopped listing most detainees with final deportation orders in its Online Detainee Locator System, according to three current and former ICE officials who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Also covered reported alongside — the timeline has no entry for these yet

  1. first by TheGrio, 2d ago · also Philadelphia Inquirer, WTOP News

    2 more headlines
  2. first by New Republic, 2d ago · also Independent UK

    1 more headline

and 1 smaller piece

What people are saying 17 voices from 3 sites · best of 227 · verbatim

Still unanswered
  • Surely there's no way a court signs off on this when a case is brought?
  • How long will this last before it's smacked down, if it is smacked down?