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Erdoğan calls for abolishing UN Security Council veto power

Turkish president argues permanent members' veto is incompatible with modern global crises and proposes stripping it as core reform.

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What to know

  • Erdoğan argues the Security Council's structure reflects the post-WWII era and is incompatible with solving modern global crises concentrated in a few capitals.
  • He proposes forming a broad coalition to abolish veto power and restore balance between the Security Council and General Assembly.
  • Online reaction is divided: supporters see it as reflecting multipolar reality; critics warn removing vetoes would undermine the body's core function of preventing conflict among nuclear powers.

The dispute Whether the veto is an outdated relic of multipolarity or a necessary mechanism to prevent nuclear conflict among great powers. · positions read across 3 posts and comments

many voices

Veto abolition reflects multipolar reality and would make the UN more effective and equitable.

  • “That's actually a brilliant suggestion. They've proven they use these powers irresponsibly.”

    byteseu@pubeurope.com · Mastodon ↗
many voices

The veto exists to prevent nuclear war among great powers and removing it would increase conflict risk.

  • “The UN Security Council's primary reason for existing is to prevent WW3, specifically a nuclear war... that would increase tensions and make a destructive war between those nuclear powers more likely.”

    commenter on Mastodon thread · Mastodon ↗
some voices

Erdoğan fundamentally misunderstands what the UN is and why the veto structure exists.

  • “I mean this just represents a fundamental misunderstanding of what the UN is, which is unsurprising from Erdogan (and half the comments here).”

    commenter on Mastodon thread · Mastodon ↗

Recep Tayyip ErdoğanRecep Tayyip Erdoğan President of Turkey

Erdoğan calls for abolishing UN Security Council veto power
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    Online reaction splits on Erdoğan's veto proposal

    Comments on the proposal reveal disagreement: some support the idea as recognizing multipolar reality, while others argue removing the veto would undermine the Security Council's core function of preventing nuclear war among great powers.

    “That's actually a brilliant suggestion. They've proven they use these powers irresponsibly.”
    — byteseu@pubeurope.com, Mastodon commenter · source

    • China probably would be happy to abstain to play the role of the rising power that's a good guy. The reality is they've built an incredible amount of soft power politically via economic initiatives, through Africa and Pacific nations primarily. If they really wanted something vetoed, I doubt they necessarily have to use a veto anymore. USA's "war…

      CursedSunr/worldnews1d agoview on r/worldnews ↗
    2 more of the top 3 · 3 posts in this stretch

    • I think the concept of "major powers" needs a rethinking at this point as things have changed quite a bit in the last 10-15 years. I think the rightward push right now is a dying gasp for a system where individual countries could wield power without pushback from their partners. The world order they are set on undoing is largely one of economic…

      badasimor/worldnews1d agoview on r/worldnews ↗

    • Not in my language it isn't. I don't tell the Czechs to stop saying Velká Británie instead of Great Britain, or for Japan to knock グレートブリテン島 on the head and learn the English alphabet. I bet the people of Turkey don't say Great Britain either. But you know what, I wouldn't dream of asking them to change it if they didn't, because that isn't right…

      DeeperMadnessr/worldnews1d agoview on r/worldnews ↗
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    Erdoğan proposes stripping UN Security Council veto power

    Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan called for abolishing the veto power of permanent UN Security Council members as a key objective of the body's reform, arguing the post-World War II structure no longer fits modern realities.

    “The tragedies of recent years have demonstrated that entrusting the resolution of global crises to the will of a handful of capitals is no longer compatible with the realities of today's world.”
    — Recep Tayyip Erdoğan

    1. 1 outlet first by Türkiye Today, 2d ago · read ↗

What people are saying 0 voices from 0 sites · best of 3 · verbatim

Still unanswered
  • What is Erdoğan's personal motivation for proposing this now?
  • Would removing the veto actually make the UN more relevant or would it cause major powers to withdraw?