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Japanese copyright scholars warn against destroying books after AI-training scans

Commentators say tying 'fair use' for AI training to destruction of physical books after digitization endangers rare originals.

newest coverage 3d agosummary written 3d ago2 pieces834 likes & upvotes2 comments XMastodon

What to know

  • Debate centers on a reported requirement that physical books be destroyed after digital scanning to satisfy 'fair use' in AI-training contexts.
  • Copyright scholar Shimanami Ryo argues the legal response should be library preservation and access, not restrictions on machine learning.
  • A second voice, jazzylord, warns rare books could be bought, stripped of readable content, and destroyed, benefiting no one, and calls for stronger digital archiving.

The dispute None evident in the available material — both voices converge on the same concern. · positions read across 1 posts and comments

most voices

Destroying rare original books to satisfy a fair-use condition is the real danger, and the fix is library preservation/archiving, not limits on AI training.

  • “今回の件で最も懸念されるのは、希少な原本が裁断・廃棄され、将来の読者や研究者が不利益を受ける可能性があること。”

    shimanamiryo · X ↗

Shimanami Ryo Copyright law scholarjazzylord (ジャズ大名) Social media commentator

Japanese copyright scholars warn against destroying books after AI-training scans
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    jazzylord adds warning about rare books being bought and destroyed

    A Mastodon repost of Shimanami's thread adds a quote from commentator jazzylord questioning who benefits if rare books are bought up, harvested unread, and then destroyed to satisfy a fair-use destruction requirement, calling for stronger digital archiving efforts.

    “これは本当に懸念されるべき点で、破棄がフェアユースの要件となることで、稀覯書が金にあかせて買い漁られ、中身を読めない形で吸い上げられて最後に破棄されるのだとしたら、果たして誰のためになるのかという疑問。…”
    — jazzylord
    • kanageohis1964@fedibird.com

      SHIMANAMI Ryo / 島並良さん: 「今回の件で最も懸念されるのは、希少な原本が裁断・廃棄され、将来の読者や研究者が不利益を受ける可能性があること。そのような事態に対して著作権ほかの法制度が担うべき役割は、機械学習の制約ではなく、図書館における公共的な保存（蔵本・納本・アーカイブ）とアクセスの促進ではないか。」 / X https:// x.com/shimanamiryo/status/2102 429560692453862 ジャズ大名さん…

      kanageohis1964@fedibird.comMastodon3d agoview on Mastodon ↗
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    Shimanami Ryo warns of rare-book destruction risk

    Copyright law scholar Shimanami Ryo posts on X that the greatest concern is rare original books being cut up and discarded, disadvantaging future readers and researchers, and argues the law's role should be public preservation and access via libraries rather than restricting machine learning.

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Still unanswered
  • Who ultimately benefits if rare books are bought, scanned, and then destroyed?
  • What legal or institutional mechanism could ensure preservation before any destruction occurs?