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Bernie Sanders calls Trump's military actions 'war crime' and 'barbarism'

Sanders condemns unspecified military conduct as contrary to American values, sparking debate over U.S. foreign policy history.

What to know

  • Bernie Sanders condemned an unspecified military action as a war crime without naming the specific conflict or operation.
  • The post sparked debate over U.S. military history, with commenters citing undiscussed atrocities and arguing the nation has a pattern of committing war crimes.
  • Responses included calls for Trump's impeachment, allegations that he made threats of annihilation, and criticism of the President's fitness for office.
  • Users contested Sanders's framing, arguing the U.S. has a long history of military atrocities and asking why the statement said 'must never be' rather than 'must never be again.'

The dispute Whether Sanders's criticism correctly frames the issue as an aberration ('must never be associated with') or downplays America's established pattern of military atrocities and war crimes. · positions read across 297 posts and comments

most voices

Trump's military conduct and threats constitute war crimes and crimes against humanity that demand impeachment and prosecution.

  • “I would think that when the president of a nuclear armed country threatens to annihilate an entire country...that threat itself is a crime against humanity.”

    agateboy.bsky.social · Bluesky ↗
many voices

The U.S. has a long history of military atrocities and war crimes, so Sanders's formulation ('must never be associated') wrongly suggests this is unprecedented.

  • “I don't know, man - I think it might be a bit too late for that...”

    kimatiwagner.bsky.social · Bluesky ↗
some voices

Congress has abdicated its responsibility to check executive power, enabling war crimes and constitutional violations.

  • “If only we had a Congress, at this point.”

    behemoth101.bsky.social · Bluesky ↗

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Bernie Sanders calls Trump's military actions 'war crime' and 'barbarism'
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How it unfolded 4 developments, newest first · click a bar or a number to jump postscomments

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    Conversation expands to cover broader U.S. military history

    Commenters began discussing lesser-known U.S. military atrocities, including the 1906 Bud Dajo massacre, Japanese internment, and genocide of Native Americans, arguing these events are systematically overlooked.

    “if you're interested in how atrocities are covered up and forgotten, I wrote a book about the worst massacre in American history that you have never heard about: Bud Dajo 1906…”
    — kimatiwagner.bsky.social
    • kimatiwagner.bsky.social

      Well this seems to have taken off - if you're interested in how atrocities are covered up and forgotten, I wrote a book about the worst massacre in American history that you have never heard about: Bud Dajo 1906 (more people were killed than at Wounded Knee and My Lai combined).

      kimatiwagner.bsky.socialBluesky11h ago311▲view on Bluesky ↗
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    • I would think that when the president of a nuclear armed country threatens to annihilate an entire country...that threat itself is a crime against humanity.

      agateboy.bsky.socialBluesky12h ago69▲view on Bluesky ↗
    • Agreed. But don't stop there... jury sanctioned rapist, fraud, coward, bully, protector of pedophiles, grifter and felon... Now we are warming up...your turn

      blueeyeddevildog.bsky.socialBluesky8h ago45▲view on Bluesky ↗
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    Commenters attack Trump's fitness for office and invoke war crimes allegations

    Responses escalated to direct attacks on the President's mental fitness and explicit war crimes accusations, with users citing bombing of civilian targets and threats of annihilation.

    “I would think that when the president of a nuclear armed country threatens to annihilate an entire country...that threat itself is a crime against humanity.”
    — agateboy.bsky.social
    • The President of the United States is a mentally unstable dull-witted ignoramus. Thank you for your attention to this message.

      usmarinevet.bsky.socialBluesky12h ago110▲view on Bluesky ↗
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    • “Again,” you left out, “again.” “Must never be associated with again.” Is what you meant to say, Bernie.

      square-humbugs.bsky.socialBluesky13h ago57▲view on Bluesky ↗
    • Why do you think is bad mouthing the ICC Bombing a girls school is a war crime Bombing civilians is a war crime Two more years of this crap

      robertjeff57-58.bsky.socialBluesky12h ago42▲view on Bluesky ↗
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    Post gains significant engagement and critical commentary

    Sanders's post accumulated over 12,000 engagements and 346 comments, with responses ranging from historical critiques of U.S. military conduct to calls for Trump's impeachment and removal from office.

    “That is a war crime. That is barbarism. And it is something the United States must never be associated with.”
    — Bernie Sanders, U.S. Senator · source
    • kimatiwagner.bsky.social

      "That is a war crime. That is barbarism. And it is something the United States must never be associated with." I don't know, man - I think it might be a bit too late for that...

      kimatiwagner.bsky.socialBluesky14h ago14k▲view on Bluesky ↗
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    • Not here to argue a position either way, but my question is was the firebombing of Tokyo, Dresden, Cologne, etc. war crimes?

      richwhy.bsky.socialBluesky13h ago4▲view on Bluesky ↗
    • Gosh, Bernie, if only you hadn't gone after Hillary Clinton as a warmonger for over an entire year.

      tigerpournelle.bsky.socialBluesky13h ago2▲view on Bluesky ↗
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    Sanders posts condemnation of military action as 'war crime'

    Senator Bernie Sanders posted to Bluesky condemning an unspecified military action as a war crime and barbarism, stating it is something the United States must never be associated with.

    • The US treating "association" as a bug rather than a feature of the OS is the ultimate legacy system error.

      simon437.bsky.socialBluesky16h ago1▲view on Bluesky ↗

What people are saying 17 voices from 1 site · best of 297 · verbatim

Still unanswered
  • Which specific military action was Sanders referring to?
  • What statements did Trump make at the UN that commenters characterize as threatening annihilation?
  • What is the basis for claims that Trump's actions lacked Congressional approval?