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Dutch government launches DAWO, NixOS-based alternative to Microsoft platforms

The Netherlands builds an open-source workplace for public administration with modular components that can be inspected and replaced.

What to know

  • The Netherlands launches DAWO, an open-source workplace platform built on NixOS as an alternative to Microsoft, designed with modular, inspectable components rather than monolithic software.
  • France and Germany are pursuing parallel initiatives (Securix/Bureautix and openDesk respectively), reflecting a broader European push for digital sovereignty and independence from US technology giants.
  • The project emphasizes public-private collaboration and transparency, with code split across multiple repositories and organized across different government and open-source institutions.
  • Community discussion identifies fragmentation concerns and terminology confusion, while acknowledging NixOS's advantages for reproducible, maintainable government systems.

The dispute Whether the Dutch government's track record on surveillance and data protection issues (eIDAS, car spyware) undermines trust in this initiative as genuinely privacy-focused. · positions read across 52 posts and comments

many voices

This is a welcome move toward digital sovereignty and away from abusive US technology practices.

  • “Any move away from the abusive big tech that exists in USA is a good move in my book.”

    askonomm · Hacker News ↗
some voices

The project is fragmented across repositories and organizations, making it difficult to understand and trust its direction.

  • “it all looks quite fragmented still from what I can see, especially now that it's also split across GitHub and CodeBerg”

    ritzaco · Hacker News ↗
some voices

Dutch government credibility is questionable given past positions on eIDAS and surveillance policies.

  • “The same Dutch who voted on the eAIDS... ahem, sorry, eIDAS and ADDW car spyware? I'm not particularly excited about our new benevolent OS.”

    Yizahi · Hacker News ↗

Dutch government (Ministry of Interior/DAWO initiative) Project initiatorFrench government (Cloud.gouv) Parallel initiative creatorGerman government Related effort

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yesterdaytodaynow · 4:02 PM ET
  1. 4

    France already building NixOS-based government systems

    A commenter discloses that the French government has announced NixOS-based systems months earlier, including Securix (a hardened OS) and Bureautix (an office deployment layer), suggesting the Dutch effort follows an established European pattern.

    “France government has announced NixOS based systems some months ago…”
    — hashar, HN commenter · source
    1. first by HN Best, 1d ago · also HN Frontpage

    2. first by Mastodon, 1d ago

    • nixCraft@mastodon.social

      Dutch governments builds alternative tech for Microsoft based on NixOS for its own IT needs. This is a good news and moving away from abusive big tech firms like Microsoft. Tax payers money should go into FLOSS only.

      nixCraft@mastodon.socialMastodon1d ago264▲view on Mastodon ↗
    2 more of the top 3 · 43 posts in this stretch
    • First off - decoupling from Trump-USA is a must. Canadians noticed this; european countries are still slow. The Netherlands is faster; the biggest slow-ass behemoth is Germany - no clue why. Germany is a big reason why the EU fails, but also the expansionistic agenda and what not (why do only poor countries want to join the EU; UK left…

      shevy-javaHacker News1d agoview on Hacker News ↗
    • I'm having trouble from the article understanding what version of linux they are going to? I looked at the article and can't figure it out. I'm not an expert at all.

      VampirePolwygler/technology1d agoview on r/technology ↗
    all of them →
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    Concerns raised about project fragmentation and terminology

    A developer who tested related projects notes confusion over the term 'workplace' and observes that the DAWO ecosystem appears fragmented across GitHub and Codeberg, split across organizations, and difficult to understand layering.

    “Workplace is such a confusing overloaded term.”
    — ritzaco
    • Workplace is such a confusing overloaded term.They also have "Mijn Bureau" which I tried out and wrote about here [0] which is the MS Office alternative.I take it this is the layer below that, an operating system?But it all looks quite fragmented still from what I can see, especially now that it's also split across GitHub and CodeBerg as well as…

      ritzacoHacker News1d agoview on Hacker News ↗
    2 more of the top 3 · 3 posts in this stretch
    • My pet peeve is changes in 'user agreements' for paid services that add increasing amounts of adverts and tracking, but if you decline, you can't use the service, but the service continues to charge you. For the service they're no longer supplying.Just the kind of thing that the EU could regulate if it chose. Decline -> Your subscription will be…

      DrBazzaHacker News1d agoview on Hacker News ↗
    • > It is absolutely wild to me how a corporation can be so toxic and abusive to its users and still be in business.It's easy: The choice was made from someone else, and you just accepted it as normal. Hardware vendors shipping PC's with Windows 11, corporations who went all in to Microsoft's tooling shove Microsoft Teams down your throat because…

      ThanemateHacker News1d agoview on Hacker News ↗
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    Developers note similar initiatives across Europe

    Community members point out parallel projects in Germany (openDesk) and France (La Suite) pursuing digital sovereignty through open platforms, indicating a broader European trend toward reducing dependence on US technology vendors.

    “In the same space, also check out openDesk initiated by the German Government and La Suite by the French one.”
    — solarkraft
    • Awesome! I believe NixOS is perfect for systems you just want to work and track reproducibly, like appliances (which a lot of server software is supposed to be). I’m glad people smarter than me are actually able to realize its advantages =)In the same space, also check out openDesk initiated by the German Government (https://www.opendesk.eu/en)…

      solarkraftHacker News1d agoview on Hacker News ↗
    2 more of the top 3 · 5 posts in this stretch
    • Any move away from the abusive big tech that exists in USA is a good move in my book. Microsoft just recently made a new patent where they will monitor you via camera and microphone to block your program/game to show you ads, and per ads viewed, you then earn credit to be able to use your program/game. It is absolutely wild to me how a corporation…

      askonommHacker News1d agoview on Hacker News ↗
    • A note to the developers in the project, if anyone is reading: your repositories are in violation of the new Codeberg policy that forbids AI-generated code [1].[1]

      ricardobeatHacker News1d agoview on Hacker News ↗
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    Dutch government launches DAWO community for open workplace platform

    The Netherlands announces DAWO, an open community in which government, industry, and society jointly build a digitally autonomous workplace. The project emphasizes separate building blocks rather than a single product, with every component inspectable and replaceable.

    “Not one single product, but separate building blocks that work together. Every part can be inspected and replaced.”
    — DAWO community
    • cryptohagen@social.data.coop

      Holland 🇳🇱 slutter sig til Europas 🇪🇺 gradvise migration fra Windows til # Linux på offentlige pc'er .. til Linux under DAWO (Digital Autonomous Government Work Environment) og tester et NixOS-baseret skrivebord Målet med DAWO er fuldt ud at afskære 🇳🇱 afhængighed af ikke-EU-software, herunder operativ-systemet, arbejds-software, cloud…

      cryptohagen@social.data.coopMastodon1d agoview on Mastodon ↗

What people are saying 18 voices from 3 sites · best of 52 · verbatim

Still unanswered
  • What does 'workplace' actually mean in DAWO's context—is it an OS, an office suite layer, or both?
  • How is the project coordinating across multiple repositories and organizations to avoid duplication with French and German efforts?