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Reform politician's 'asylum' claim about English people draws backlash

Jaymey McIvor's assertion that English people are claiming asylum in the Home Counties prompts mockery and criticism of LBC's editorial judgment.

What to know

  • Reform UK councillor Jaymey McIvor claimed English people are claiming asylum in the Home Counties, a statement that conflates internal migration with asylum claims.
  • LBC host Shelagh Fogarty immediately challenged the logic by asking if people had simply moved house.
  • Commenters overwhelmingly criticize both McIvor's claim and LBC's decision to air it, viewing the platform as amplifying incoherent rhetoric to a mass audience.

The dispute Whether platforming absurd claims serves to discredit them through exposure or amplifies them to a receptive audience. · positions read across 124 posts and comments

most voices

LBC should not platform Reform politicians who peddle absurd or bigoted rhetoric.

  • “I'm sorry but these people shouldn't be asked on to give their views. I think we are perfectly able to hear from a range of opinions without sinking to this level.”

    jonloveridge.bsky.social · Bluesky ↗
most voices

McIvor's claim is logically incoherent—people moving within the UK cannot claim asylum.

  • “You can't claim asylum in your own country.”

    kennie1031.bsky.social · Bluesky ↗
some voices

Platforming incoherent claims may backfire by making the absurdity visible to wider audiences.

  • “I'm torn here, I'm thinking people like that shouldn't be given air time, on the other hand I'm thinking he's that ridiculous it will make people aware of how bad Reform are.”

    saintyick.bsky.social · Bluesky ↗

Jaymey McIvor Reform UK councillorShelagh Fogarty LBC radio host

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    Bluesky users criticize both McIvor and LBC's decision to platform him

    Comments flood in attacking McIvor's statement as nonsensical and criticizing LBC for giving airtime to what multiple commenters characterize as absurd or bigoted rhetoric. The core complaint centers on editorial judgment rather than substantive disagreement.

    “I'm sorry but these people shouldn't be asked on to give their views. I think we are perfectly able to hear from a range of opinions without sinking to this level.”
    — jonloveridge.bsky.social
    • I’m sorry but these people shouldn’t be asked on to give their views. I think we are perfectly able to hear from a range of opinions without sinking to this level. Just absurd nonsense. Helps no one. Either makes people angry or less informed

      jonloveridge.bsky.socialBluesky3d ago96▲view on Bluesky ↗
    2 more of the top 3 · 123 posts in this stretch
    • Do not give these idiotic wankers airtime. Anyone with half a brain may well mock them and find it amusing. The rest of the knobheads think he's making a great point. This is why we are at this stage as a country.

      bslufc.bsky.socialBluesky3d ago73▲view on Bluesky ↗
    • Councillors from other parties never get as much airtime as this lot do.

      joybe.bsky.socialBluesky3d ago50▲view on Bluesky ↗
    all of them →
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    McIvor claims English people are claiming asylum in Home Counties

    Reform UK councillor Jaymey McIvor appeared on LBC radio and stated that English people are claiming asylum in the Home Counties due to out-of-control immigration. Host Shelagh Fogarty immediately questioned the logic of the claim.

    “English people are claiming asylum in the Home Counties due to 'out of control immigration'.”
    — Jaymey McIvor
    • lbc.co.uk

      Reform's Jaymey McIvor says 'English people are claiming asylum in the Home Counties' due to 'out of control immigration'. 'Did they not just move house?' Shelagh Fogarty asks him.

      lbc.co.ukBluesky3d ago184▲view on Bluesky ↗

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