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EU proposes to let AI firms use personal data without consent

Leaked document shows Irish Presidency backing plan to let OpenAI, Google, Meta use decades of European data for AI training.

What to know

  • Leaked EU Council document shows Irish Presidency backing a proposal to exempt AI companies from data protection rules when using personal data 'in the context of AI,' with no consent required.
  • Germany and other major EU member states reportedly support the plan, which would allow firms like OpenAI, Google, and Meta to use decades of personal data collected from Europeans.
  • Privacy advocates say the proposal amounts to 'digital expropriation' and primarily benefits large US tech firms that already control vast datasets, while most EU companies cannot compete without equivalent data access.
  • The proposal bypassed standard fundamental rights assessments and expert consultation, processed as a 'fast-track' change within the Digital Omnibus legislative package.

The dispute No substantive disagreement appears in the evidence—all visible responses oppose the proposal. · positions read across 7 posts and comments

most voices

This represents corporate capture and democratic failure—EU states are surrendering citizens' rights to tech billionaires.

  • “Why thew fuck would anyone argue something insane like that? Bribery sounds like the only explanation. Why else would they sell us out like that?”

    mcvos · Reddit ↗

Max Schrems Privacy advocate, noyb.eu founderIrish Presidency EU Council presidencyGermany EU member state

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    Schrems warns proposal benefits only largest tech firms

    Schrems argues the legislative change would primarily benefit large AI corporations that have already amassed vast personal datasets, while EU companies lack comparable data volumes and capital to compete. The move could redirect European-collected data to US and Chinese providers.

    “This legislative change primarily benefits the big players, those who have collected massive amounts of European's data.”
    — Max Schrems, noyb.eu
    • aral@mastodon.ar.al

      Ireland = Big Tech’s bitch EU = ? “AI: EU Member States plan ‘digital expropriation’ of Europeans in the interest of AI companies In a leaked document, the Irish Presidency proposes to EU Member States that the interest of OpenAI, Anthropic, Google, Meta and SpaceX to make profits should take precedence over the fundamental right to data…

      aral@mastodon.ar.alMastodon1d ago179▲view on Mastodon ↗
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    • > The proposal makes it clear that the interests of AI companies should be preferred in the future over the fundamental right to data protection. Why thew fuck would anyone argue something insane like that? AI makes our fundamental right to data protection even more important. Bribery sounds like the only explanation. Why else would they sell us…

      mcvosr/europe1d agoview on r/europe ↗
    • KI: EU-Mitgliedstaaten planen „digitale Enteignung“ der Europäer im Interesse von KI-Unternehmen https:// noyb.eu/de/ai-eu-member-states -plan-digital-expropriation-europeans-interest-ai-companies

      wobl@chaos.socialMastodon1d agoview on Mastodon ↗
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  2. background

    Leaked EU document reveals data protection rollback for AI — Austrian privacy organization noyb.eu publishes details of a leaked Council document showing the Irish Presidency proposes Article 88bis (formerly 88c), which would allow AI companies to use personal data collected over decades without restriction when framed as "in the context of AI." Germany and other major EU member states reportedly support the plan informally.

What people are saying 4 voices from 2 sites · best of 7 · verbatim

Still unanswered
  • Will EU Parliament reject or amend the proposal before final adoption?
  • Which other EU member states formally support or oppose the measure?