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TechQuiet 10d · day 28

Reflect Orbital tests ground lights near Mount Whitney, draws backlash

A startup aiming to beam sunlight from space at night lit up the Sierra Nevada with a ground-based test, sparking online mockery and concern.

What to know

  • Reflect Orbital tested ground-based lights near Mount Whitney to simulate its planned orbital-mirror system for beaming sunlight to Earth at night.
  • The company frames the technology as a search-and-rescue aid, but online reaction is dominated by criticism calling the project reckless or pointless.
  • A side dispute among commenters concerns whether the startup's energy-math claims hold up, and whether they apply to Earth cooling or an unrelated Mars-warming argument.

The dispute Commenters disagree over whether the cited math about planetary energy change actually supports or undermines the company's claims, and whether it even applies to the right planet. · positions read across 34 posts and comments

most voices

The project is a reckless or pointless PR stunt by a hype-driven startup.

  • “I fucking hate this company. This is so fucking stupid for so many reasons.”

    sundogplanets@mastodon.social · Mastodon ↗
some voices

The dispute over the company's energy-math claims is being muddled by conflating Earth cooling with a separate Mars-warming argument.

  • “This conversation was about cooling Earth, how'd it suddenly shift to a copy&paste about warming Mars? They're two entirely different animals.”

    McKlown · Reddit ↗

Reflect Orbital Startup developing orbital sunlight-reflecting mirrorssundogplanets@mastodon.social Mastodon criticharryseaotter.art Bluesky critic

How it unfolded 5 developments, newest first · click a bar or a number to jump postscomments

Peak 15 pieces in 7h at Oct 15, 9 PM; 37 pieces over 29 days (1 article · 6 posts · 30 comments) Oct 15, 2 PM — 6 pieces · 1 article · 2 posts · 3 comments — Reddit 4, Mastodon 2Oct 15, 9 PM — 15 pieces · 2 posts · 13 comments — Reddit 13, Bluesky 1, Hacker News 1Oct 16, 4 AM — 4 pieces · 1 post · 3 comments — Reddit 3, Mastodon 1Oct 16, 11 AM — 1 piece · 1 comment — Reddit 1Oct 16, 6 PM — 1 piece · 1 post — Mastodon 1Oct 17, 1 AM — quietOct 17, 8 AM — quietOct 17, 3 PM — quietOct 17, 10 PM — quietOct 18, 5 AM — 4 pieces · 4 comments — Reddit 4Oct 18, 12 PM — 1 piece · 1 comment — Reddit 1Oct 18, 7 PM — quietOct 19, 2 AM — quietOct 19, 9 AM — quietOct 19, 4 PM — quietOct 19, 11 PM — quietOct 20, 6 AM — quietOct 20, 1 PM — quietOct 20, 8 PM — 1 piece · 1 comment — Reddit 1Oct 21, 3 AM — quietOct 21, 10 AM — quietOct 21, 5 PM — quietOct 22, 12 AM — quietOct 22, 7 AM — 1 piece · 1 comment — Reddit 1Oct 22, 2 PM — quietOct 22, 9 PM — quietOct 23, 4 AM — quietOct 23, 11 AM — quietOct 23, 6 PM — 1 piece · 1 comment — Reddit 1Oct 24, 1 AM — quietOct 24, 8 AM — quietOct 24, 3 PM — quietOct 24, 10 PM — quietOct 25, 5 AM — quietOct 25, 12 PM — quietOct 25, 7 PM — quietOct 26, 2 AM — quietOct 26, 9 AM — quietOct 26, 4 PM — quietOct 26, 11 PM — 1 piece · 1 comment — Reddit 1Oct 27, 6 AM — quietOct 27, 1 PM — quietOct 27, 8 PM — quietOct 28, 3 AM — quietOct 28, 10 AM — quietOct 28, 5 PM — quietOct 29, 12 AM — quietOct 29, 7 AM — quietOct 29, 2 PM — quietOct 29, 9 PM — quietOct 30, 4 AM — quietOct 30, 11 AM — quietOct 30, 6 PM — quietOct 31, 1 AM — quietOct 31, 8 AM — quietOct 31, 3 PM — quietOct 31, 10 PM — quietNov 1, 4 AM — quietNov 1, 11 AM — quietNov 1, 6 PM — quietNov 2, 1 AM — quietNov 2, 8 AM — quietNov 2, 3 PM — quietNov 2, 10 PM — quietNov 3, 5 AM — 1 piece · 1 comment — Reddit 1Nov 3, 12 PM — quietNov 3, 7 PM — quietNov 4, 2 AM — quietNov 4, 9 AM — quietNov 4, 4 PM — quietNov 4, 11 PM — quietNov 5, 6 AM — quietNov 5, 1 PM — quietNov 5, 8 PM — quietNov 6, 3 AM — quietNov 6, 10 AM — quietNov 6, 5 PM — quietNov 7, 12 AM — quietNov 7, 7 AM — quietNov 7, 2 PM — quietNov 7, 9 PM — quietNov 8, 4 AM — quietNov 8, 11 AM — quietNov 8, 6 PM — quietNov 9, 1 AM — quietNov 9, 8 AM — quietNov 9, 3 PM — quietNov 9, 10 PM — quietNov 10, 5 AM — quietNov 10, 12 PM — quietNov 10, 7 PM — quietNov 11, 2 AM — quietNov 11, 9 AM — quietNov 11, 4 PM — quietNov 11, 11 PM — quietYesterday, 6 AM — quietYesterday, 1 PM — quietYesterday, 8 PM — quiet 1–5
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  1. 5

    Bluesky user sarcastically questions safety implications

    A Bluesky post reacting to the SFGate story sarcastically suggests the project could cause problems, continuing the wave of public skepticism.

    “Well, I can totally see why this would totally not cause any problems whatsoever.”
    — harryseaotter.art
    • harryseaotter.art

      Well, I can totally see why this would totally not cause any problems whatsoever.

      harryseaotter.artBluesky28d ago2▲view on Bluesky ↗
    2 more of the top 3 · 30 posts in this stretch
    • use it to light up an area Let me introduce you to this thing called an infrared camera You could illuminate an enemy base with painful levels of brightness You absolutely could not, even with tens of thousands of these things focused on one point. It'd take literally hundreds of thousands of 10x10m mirrors to achieve daytime levels of brightness…

      oz6702r/space28d agoview on r/space ↗
    • MsMerope@sfba.social

      and one for @ sundogplanets "On Saturday night, residents of Lone Pine, a small Eastern Sierra town near Mount Whitney, were baffled by a pair of blinding lights illuminating the desert south of town. In what should have been a pitch-black sky, the beams seemed to come out of nowhere, casting a glow across the landscape." https://www…

      MsMerope@sfba.socialMastodon27d agoview on Mastodon ↗
    all of them →
  2. 4

    Mastodon user condemns the company's test as reckless

    A widely engaged Mastodon post calls the company and its stunt stupid, amplifying criticism of the test.

    “I fucking hate this company. This is so fucking stupid for so many reasons.”
    — sundogplanets@mastodon.social
    • sundogplanets@mastodon.social

      I fucking hate this company. This is so fucking stupid for so many reasons. https://www. sfgate.com/tech/article/mount- whitney-reflect-orbital-22478878.php

      sundogplanets@mastodon.socialMastodon28d ago303▲view on Mastodon ↗
    1 more of the top 2 · 2 posts in this stretch
    • The statement was about napkin math to create planetary energy change. Here is some pretty robust math talking about planetary energy change. Don't think I can make it any simpler than that :)

      TallManInAVanr/space28d agoview on r/space ↗
    all of them →
  3. 3

    Reddit thread disputes the startup's science and motives

    Commenters mock the test as a PR stunt reinventing basic illumination, while others argue over whether the company's cited math applies to cooling Earth or a separate claim about warming Mars.

    “This conversation was about cooling Earth, how'd it suddenly shift to a copy&paste about warming Mars? They're two entirely different animals.”
    — McKlown
    • "tech startup" is now code for "dumb solution to a made up problem, with a shitty 3D rendered 'proof of concept' and a lot of techbro nepo babies lining up to waste money on this". Edit: and their "test" was a blatant PR stunt that used spotlights that speculate on the nature of their proposed illumination, to demonstrate how people can do things…

      TheBanishedBardr/space28d agoview on r/space ↗
    1 more of the top 2 · 2 posts in this stretch
    • This conversation was about cooling Earth, how'd it suddenly shift to a copy&paste about warming Mars? They're two entirely different animals.

      McKlownr/space28d agoview on r/space ↗
    all of them →
  4. 2

    SFGate details the test and the startup's orbital-mirror plans

    Coverage explains that the California startup is planning satellites with mirrors to reflect sunlight down to Earth, and that the Mount Whitney test used ground equipment to simulate that effect.

  5. 1

    Reflect Orbital runs ground-light test near Mount Whitney

    Mysterious lights spotted near Mount Whitney turn out to be a simulated-illumination test by Reflect Orbital, which is developing orbital mirrors meant to beam reflected sunlight to the ground at night, pitched as an aid to search-and-rescue teams.

    1. first by Mastodon, 28d ago

What people are saying 17 voices from 2 sites · best of 34 · verbatim