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ClimateQuiet 5d · day 8

Physicist warns proposed Alberta data centre would emit heat equivalent to 23 Hiroshimas daily

A court expert challenges Alberta's decision to exempt a massive data centre project from environmental impact assessment.

What to know

  • A physicist warned a proposed Alberta data centre would release heat energy equivalent to 23 Hiroshima bombs per day.
  • Alberta's Environment Ministry exempted the project from required environmental impact assessment review.
  • Commenters express concern that exemptions prioritize tech industry interests over environmental protection and resource sovereignty.
  • The decision to skip environmental assessment review is a core point of contention among observers.

The dispute Whether the regulatory exemption from environmental assessment was legally proper or represents a problematic bypass of necessary environmental review. · positions read across 26 posts and comments

most voices

Regulatory exemptions and approval prioritize tech billionaire interests over environmental protection and national sovereignty.

  • “Hard fucking no on this garbage. We can't have a serious conversation about sovereignty while selling our country out to big tech.”

    noisebloodassault · Reddit ↗
some voices

The process followed established legal requirements, even if the energy consumption is high.

  • “In a Oct. 30 statement, Alberta's Ministry of Environment and Protected Areas said it followed the established legal process to determine that no environmental impact assessment (EIA) was required for the project.”

    YYCpops · Reddit ↗

Alberta Ministry of Environment and Protected Areas Regulatory authorityUnnamed physicist Court expert witness

How it unfolded 1 development · click the chart to see its coverage articlespostscomments

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  1. 1

    Physicist testifies data centre would release extreme daily heat output

    A physicist presented court evidence that the proposed data centre would release energy equivalent to 23 Hiroshima-sized atomic bombs worth of energy per day.

    “Hard fucking no on this garbage. We can't have a serious conversation about sovereignty while selling our country out to big tech.”
    — noisebloodassault, Reddit commenter · source
    1. first by Yahoo News Canada, 7d ago · also HN Frontpage, CBC

      2 more headlines
    2. first by Mastodon, 5d ago · also Futurism

    • atomicker@mstdn.ca

      If Kevin O'Leary's Wonder Valley data centre goes ahead, "about 23 Hiroshima-sized atomic bombs worth of energy every single day will get dumped into that landscape (…) The effect will almost certainly be large, if not extreme". "I can't imagine allowing it to go forward without those full assessments"; if built, it has the potential to be "the…

      atomicker@mstdn.caMastodon5d ago11▲view on Mastodon ↗
    2 more of the top 3 · 26 posts in this stretch
    • I agree with that. I didn’t understand saying the centres themselves release little energy into the environment. They consume a lot of energy, we’re adding city level energy consumption in month timespans all over the place, and all of that goes into the environment. With additional and vastly more negatively resulting heat effects from the…

      Bad_Alternativer/canada6d agoview on r/canada ↗
    • gerrymcgovern@mastodon.green

      "In all, the data center project will use about nine gigawatts of power using on-site natural gas generators per day, instead of drawing power from an energy grid. All that burning fuel, paired with the heat being generated by the data center operations themselves, totals a daily thermal load of between 16 and 18 gigawatts, Davies calculated — the…

      gerrymcgovern@mastodon.greenMastodon5d agoview on Mastodon ↗
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  2. background

    Alberta Environment Ministry exempts data centre from environmental impact assessment — Alberta's Ministry of Environment and Protected Areas determined that no environmental impact assessment (EIA) was required for the proposed data centre project, following established legal processes.

What people are saying 20 voices from 2 sites · best of 26 · verbatim