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Apple warns memory chip costs will squeeze holiday margins despite earnings beat

New CEO John Ternus's first quarterly report beat Wall Street forecasts, but a warning of "unprecedented" memory price rises knocked the stock.

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Apple reports record Q4 FY2026: $114.5B revenue under new CEO John Ternus

2 stories · since Oct 28 · newest 7d ago

  1. Apple warns memory chip costs will squeeze holiday margins despite earnings beatyou are here
  2. Apple Says Memory Costs Are "Unprecedented," Dodges Future Price-Hike Question

What to know

  • Apple's fiscal Q4 2026 revenue ($114.5B) and profit ($30.7B) beat Wall Street estimates in John Ternus's first earnings report as CEO.
  • The stock fell after Ternus warned memory chip prices are rising at an "unprecedented" rate, with margins expected to shrink further in the holiday quarter.
  • Greater China revenue missed estimates by over $1 billion even as iPhone and Mac outperformed, tempering the headline beat.
  • Apple's guidance of 7-10% holiday revenue growth was overshadowed by margin concerns tied to memory costs and new Siri AI spending.

The dispute Whether Apple's relatively light AI infrastructure spending compared to rivals is a sound cost-conscious strategy or a long-term competitive risk given its reliance on Google's Gemini for Siri. · positions read across 42 posts and comments

many voices

Doubts persist about whether AI investment is delivering real returns, and Apple's cautious approach could be either prudent or a long-term risk.

  • “No actual proof LLMs are having an ROI on enterprise's. LLM is as cheap as is it will ever be right now.”

    wilsonpsufan22 · Reddit ↗
some voices

Tariff-related earnings gains went to Apple's profit rather than being passed back to consumers.

  • “In other words, the money consumers used to pay Trump's tariffs was not refunded to the consumers, but went straight to Apple's bottom line instead.”

    motionlessveloc · Hacker News ↗
some voices

The muted stock reaction is best explained by looking past the headline beat to segment weakness, particularly in China.

  • “The weak spot is Greater China, $17.54B vs about $18.8B expected, which probably explains why the stock didn't pop.”

    Holywizy · Reddit ↗

“OK, if on the disappointing side”

Ben Barringer, Head of technology research, Quilter Cheviot · The Guardian · Nov 1

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Apple warns memory chip costs will squeeze holiday margins despite earnings beat
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  1. 7

    Apple's holiday revenue outlook is overshadowed by margin squeeze

    Apple guided to 7-10% holiday-quarter revenue growth, but warned gross margins would shrink further due to memory costs and spending on the new Siri AI assistant, a point that weighed on the stock more than the growth forecast.

    “Apple predicted revenue growth of 7% to 10% during the holiday season, but a warning that gross margins would be smaller due to higher memory costs and expenses related to the new Siri AI digital assistant, weighed on the stock.”
    — Bloomberg Tech
    1. 1 outlet first by Bloomberg Tech, 7d ago · read ↗

    • There are two type of people, one who clicks the first link on Amazon and buy it. Second who research prices, sales, discounts, specs, and tons of other factors, and then make a purchase. First one will definitely use chatbot. Second one is most people on a text based social media platform.

      Alexwolfdogr/stocks6d agoview on r/stocks ↗
    2 more of the top 3 · 3 posts in this stretch
    • Because NVIDIA literally pays its own customers to buy stuff from them. Apple can release a piece of cardboard with an small "i" on it and armies of people with line up to buy it.

      Ciappatosr/business6d agoview on r/business ↗
    • That Search % is going to go down over the next few years as Google Cloud ramps up. And thankfully Google Cloud has +35% op margins.

      himynameis_r/stocks7d agoview on r/stocks ↗
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  2. 6

    Analysts say the global memory crisis is Ternus's first real test

    Coverage characterized the disappointing gross-margin forecast as the first major challenge of Ternus's tenure, tied to a broader industry-wide memory shortage driven by AI datacenter demand.

    “What we're seeing with memory pricing right now is unprecedented…”
    — John Ternus, Apple CEO · source
    1. 1 outlet first by CNBC, 7d ago · read ↗

    • appleinsider@mastodon.social

      Apple released its fourth-quarter results for 2026 on Monday. Here's what analysts watching the iPhone maker say about its finances and their expectations for its future. https:// appleinsider.com/articles/26/1 1/03/analysts-on-aapl-how-observers-feel-about-apples-q4-financials?utm_medium=social&utm_source=mastodon

      appleinsider@mastodon.socialMastodon7d agoview on Mastodon ↗
    2 more of the top 3 · 5 posts in this stretch
    • Apple $AAPL JUST guided fiscal Q1 revenue growth of 7-10%, ahead of the 6.1% analysts expected, with Services growth of 8-9%. The CFO said the 45-46% gross margin outlook factors in memory chip expenses and Siri AI costs.

      @sam_badawiX8d agoview on X ↗
    • Umm no, something specifically said made it drop a 4% percent in a minute after hours during the call. Watch back one of the live streams with the price graph in sync and you can see the statement the market didn’t like.

      UCFSamr/stocks8d agoview on r/stocks ↗
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  3. 5

    Segment data show China revenue miss offset by Mac strength

    Breakdown of results showed Greater China revenue of $17.54 billion versus about $18.8 billion expected, while Mac beat estimates by more than $1 billion, explaining why the headline beat did not lift the stock.

    “The weak spot is Greater China, $17.54B vs about $18.8B expected, which probably explains why the stock didn't pop.”
    — Holywizy
    • People don't give a fuck. Whatever is most convenient is what will happen. The next big thing in phones is no phone at all. If the AI bulls are correct, the cool kids will not have phones. They will be for emergencies only. Like, if you really move through the science fiction universe, people won't even have an opportunity to "get bored enough to…

      Hacking_the_Gibsonr/stocks8d agoview on r/stocks ↗
    2 more of the top 3 · 4 posts in this stretch
    • I borked my cherished 2019 trying to embiggen its CPU.So I bought one of those spiffy Studio Display units in anticipation of the Mac Mini refresh.But my strategy didn't account for local LLM mania.I'll be postponing my purchase so long as used Mac Minis, if you can find one, remain as (or more) expensive as a new one.

      specialistHacker News8d agoview on Hacker News ↗
    • acemaxx.bsky.social

      Analysts expect #Apple to report a nearly 11% rise in revenue to $113 billion for the company's fiscal 4Q and net profit is expected to rise about 6% to $29 billion, chart @reuters.com

      acemaxx.bsky.socialBluesky8d agoview on Bluesky ↗
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  4. 4

    Ternus warns memory chip prices are rising at an "unprecedented" rate

    On the earnings call, Ternus said memory pricing was unprecedented and predicted Q4 costs would be even higher than the prior quarter; Apple shares fell in after-hours trading on the margin warning.

    1. 1 outlet first by Guardian, 8d ago · read ↗

    2. first by Bloomberg.com, 8d ago

    • But those few extra grands of revenue at the cost of millions in design and inventory to support that productNot to mention, at the price apple is selling their 27 inch display, i am doubtful anyone buying them want to make do with the base M chip. But if not the base chip, that will add even more inventory cost

      cheriooHacker News8d agoview on Hacker News ↗
    2 more of the top 3 · 11 posts in this stretch
    • Lots of growth but way more costs and the costs aren’t going away, they’re getting worse. No actual proof LLMs are having an ROI on enterprise’s. LLM is as cheap as is it will ever be right now. How many will foot the bill when Open AI and Anthropic start charging for their trillion dollar + of upcoming expense

      wilsonpsufan22r/wallstreetbets8d agoview on r/wallstreetbets ↗
    • pgiulan@federate.social

      A preview of Apple's earnings call today https:// x.com/rsgnl/status/21173544020 54840780/video/1 @ apple_enthusiast # Apple # iOS # iPad

      pgiulan@federate.socialMastodon8d agoview on Mastodon ↗
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  5. 3

    Apple reports Q4 FY2026 results beating Wall Street estimates

    Apple posted $114.5 billion in revenue and $30.7 billion in profit ($2.10 EPS), above consensus, with iPhone revenue of $57.58 billion outperforming forecasts while Services came in roughly in line.

    “Revenue: $114.48 billion vs. $113.46 billion expected…”
    — @unusual_whales
    1. first by 9to5Mac, 8d ago · also Neowin, Appleosophy, iClarified, Thurrott, MacStories, iThinkDifferent +5

      12 more headlines
    2. first by KIRO 7 News Seattle, 7d ago · also Japan Today, AP News, The Hindu, Philadelphia Inquirer, Yahoo! Finance Canada, Toronto Star +2

      1 more headline
    6 more claims →
    • A preview of Apple's earnings call today

      @rsgnlX8d ago63▲view on X ↗
    2 more of the top 3 · 19 posts in this stretch
    • Update: the segment numbers are out. The weak spot is Greater China, $17.54B vs about $18.8B expected, which probably explains why the stock didn't pop. Mac was the surprise beat by over $1B. I put every segment vs estimates in one table here (iPhone, Services, Mac, iPad, China, net income)…

      Holywizyr/StockMarket8d agoview on r/StockMarket ↗
    • It's Apple earnings season. It's John Ternus' turn to sit in the analyst hot seat for the first time. If you want to see how Apple did (well in my non-analyst opinion), we have some pretty charts on MacStories. https://www. macstories.net/news/apple-repo rts-q4-2026-revenue-of-114-5-billion/

      johnvoorhees@macstories.netMastodon8d agoview on Mastodon ↗
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    Outlets flag memory-cost surge as the key risk heading into the call

    Multiple previews (Reuters, Investing.com, The Hindu, Euronews) said investors wanted clarity on holiday sales, rising memory costs and Apple's AI plans before Ternus's first earnings call.

    1. first by Semafor, 8d ago · also The Guardian, Associated Press, NY Post, New York Post

      2 more headlines
    2. first by Reuters, 9d ago · also The Hindu, Euronews, Investing.com News, Channel News Asia

      2 more headlines
    5 more claims →
  7. 1

    Press previews frame earnings as test for new CEO Ternus

    Ahead of the report, coverage framed the results as a gauge of how incoming CEO John Ternus was handling inflated memory prices and a tougher consumer spending backdrop.

Also covered reported alongside — the timeline has no entry for these yet

  1. first by Fortune, 8d ago · also Yahoo! Finance Canada

  2. first by Daring Fireball, 8d ago · also Six Colors

  3. first by CNBC, 8d ago · also Investing.com News

    1 more headline
  4. first by Six Colors, 8d ago · also 9to5Mac

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What people are saying 12 voices from 4 sites · best of 42 · verbatim

Still unanswered
  • How much further will memory chip costs rise before margins stabilize?
  • Will Apple's reliance on Alphabet's Gemini for Siri become a long-term competitive liability?