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UK and France say Ukraine peacekeepers could fire back at Russians, skip US tech

Western officials detail an Anglo-French-led stabilisation force that would return fire if attacked and avoid depending on US systems like Starlink.

What to know

  • Officials say a future Anglo-French-led peacekeeping force in Ukraine would be permitted to fire back if attacked by Russia, though engagement would stay 'defensive in nature'.
  • The force is designed to avoid reliance on US systems and technology, including Elon Musk's Starlink, after the US briefly restricted Ukraine's Starshield access last month.
  • Exercise Koalicja, involving 2,800 troops from 11 countries, will rehearse rapid deployment in Poland later this month, but any real deployment depends on a ceasefire that has not materialized.
  • Trump has said the US would not commit its own forces to peacekeeping, underscoring that the plan would be almost exclusively European and outside Nato.

“Clearly we will protect our forces against any aggression”

Western official, official familiar with the plans · The Guardian ↗ · Nov 2

Lt Gen Tom Bateman Commander of the proposed multinational forceDonald TrumpDonald Trump US PresidentUK Ministry of Defence / Western officials Anonymous officials briefing on the planFrance Co-lead nation of the proposed stabilisation force

UK and France say Ukraine peacekeepers could fire back at Russians, skip US tech
theguardian.com

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  1. background

    Bateman frames force as a binding security guarantee for Kyiv — The force's commander said the UK, France and other participating European countries were committed to providing robust security guarantees for Ukraine once hostilities end, while stressing the force would be 'non-Nato'.

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    UK and France detail Exercise Koalicja rehearsal in Poland

    The UK and France set out Exercise Koalicja, an 11-country rehearsal later this month in Poland involving 2,800 troops — 1,500 French and 300 British — testing rapid deployment plans to Ukraine developed over more than a year.

    “military preparedness, rapid deployment capabilities and ability to operate effectively…”
    — Lt Gen Tom Bateman
    1. first by The Times, 5d ago · also The Guardian

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    • mina-hanse.bsky.social

      An Anglo-French led peacekeeping force in Ukraine, deployed following a ceasefire, would be permitted to return fire if attacked by Russia. The force is expected to rely on European technology rather than US systems like Starlink.

      mina-hanse.bsky.socialBluesky5d ago33▲view on Bluesky ↗
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    • jmeosbn@mas.to

      — ‘British troops and their European allies would be allowed to fire back if attacked by Russians when potentially stationed as peacekeepers in Ukraine after a ceasefire, western officials said. The Anglo-French led stabilisation force would also not rely on US systems or technology, such as Elon Musk’s Starlink, and is expected to be almost…

      jmeosbn@mas.toMastodon5d agoview on Mastodon ↗
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    Officials say Ukraine peacekeepers could fire back at Russians

    Western officials said British troops and European allies stationed as peacekeepers in Ukraine after a ceasefire would be permitted to return fire if attacked, and that the Anglo-French-led force would not depend on US systems or technology such as Starlink.

    “We are not dependent on US systems…”
    — Western official
    1. first by Sky News, 5d ago

      1 more headline
    • scottlucas.bsky.social

      Western officials: UK and European troops, potentially stationed as peacekeepers in #Ukraine after ceasefire, will be allowed to fire back if attacked by #Russia Multinational force, led by UK and France, will not rely on US systems or technology, such as #ElonMusk ’s #Starlink #UkraineWar

      scottlucas.bsky.socialBluesky5d ago47▲view on Bluesky ↗
  4. background

    Hackers breach Ukrainian and Russian air-raid alert apps — On Sunday and Monday, Ukraine's and Russia's air-raid alert apps were hacked; the Ukrainian app briefly issued false warnings of nuclear and chemical threats and 'streetfighting'.

  5. background

    US briefly cuts Ukraine's Starshield access — The US suddenly restricted Ukraine's use of Starlink's military variant, Starshield, for about 10 days, affecting medium-range drone missions.

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