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Amodei's call for an AI 'slowdown' splits industry as OpenAI, Anthropic, Google say they're coordinating on safety

Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei's essay warning of AI risk drew Musk's and Altman's agreement, a market selloff, David Sacks's public rejection, and accusations the warning is self-serving.

What to know

  • Amodei's essay warns that an unaligned AI agent swarm could seize control of the internet within 6-12 months, and calls for pacing frontier development globally.
  • Musk and Altman signaled agreement, producing a rare public alignment among rival CEOs, while David Sacks publicly rejected the need for regulation.
  • AI-linked stocks fell as much as 13% after the slowdown remarks, and much of the online conversation questions whether the warnings are genuine safety concern or cover for financial and competitive pressures.
  • OpenAI says it is now coordinating with Anthropic and Google on AI safety, even as Anthropic separately withheld its newest model from UK safety testing.

The dispute Whether Amodei's slowdown warning reflects a genuine assessment of AI risk or is a financially and competitively motivated maneuver. · positions read across 840 posts and comments

most voices

The slowdown call is a self-serving move to mask financial struggles, justify IPO delays, or dodge accountability rather than a genuine safety warning.

  • “Never more convinced that all of these companies are losing hundreds of billions and have no clue how to make a profit.”

    mitchsolomon.bsky.social · Bluesky ↗
many voices

This doomsaying distracts from the AI industry's already-existing, concrete harms (labor, data centers, military use).

  • “The binary between AI apocalypse and AI redemption asks us to ignore data centers and AI war machines — all as tech executives get incredibly rich.”

    Natasha Lennard / theintercept · Mastodon ↗
some voices

Regardless of the CEOs' motives, the risk question deserves real regulatory debate rather than dismissal as marketing.

  • “I wish we could stop arguing about whether or not these things are marketing stunts and talk more about what AI regulations actually should be. If the risk is overstated then nothing happens. If it's not, then I'd rather we have learned…”

    Qyriad · Lobsters ↗
some voices

No new regulation is needed; the CEOs already control the frontier and should keep competing rather than pace themselves.

  • “You guys are the frontier. By any reasonable metric — market share, revenue growth, model capability — the two of you have a duopoly on frontier”

    David Sacks · X ↗

Dario AmodeiDario Amodei Anthropic CEOElon MuskElon Musk xAI/SpaceX/Tesla CEOSam AltmanSam Altman OpenAI CEODavid SacksDavid Sacks White House-aligned tech investor/AI adviserMarc BenioffMarc Benioff Salesforce CEO

Amodei's call for an AI 'slowdown' splits industry as OpenAI, Anthropic, Google say they're coordinating on safety
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  1. 8

    OpenAI says it is coordinating with Anthropic and Google on AI safety

    Bloomberg reported OpenAI is working with Anthropic and Google on AI safety, as commentators including The Intercept argued the doomsaying distracts from existing AI harms, and analysts asked whether the industry's caution is genuine or financially driven.

    “Talk of existential risk is a highly convenient way to not address the already known harms produced by AI technologies overseen by fascist billionaires like Musk and Palantir CEO Alex Karp.”
    — The Intercept
    1. 4 outlets first by Capital Brief, 11d ago · also Bloomberg, Channel News Asia, Reuters · read ↗

    2. first by The Deep View, 14d ago · also Fortune

      1 more headline
    • theintercept

      Why would three multibillionaire tech CEOs all come together to agree that the technologies their companies are developing might be too dangerous? One thing is clear: Talk of existential risk is a highly convenient way to not address the already known harms produced by AI technologies overseen by fascist billionaires like Musk and Palantir CEO…

      theinterceptMastodon11d ago161▲view on Mastodon ↗
    2 more of the top 3 · 52 posts in this stretch
    • There's speculation that the openAI/Anthropic security woes and call for regulation is an attempt at making using free LLM models, which also happen to be less resource intensive, more difficult. Comment from a related Ars Technica article

      miskaknapek.bsky.socialBluesky11d ago5▲view on Bluesky ↗
    • > also lol at "mr. loves gods" One of the ways I've been coping with the insanity of this is by viewing the AI industry as if it was the writing of a Hideo Kojima game. On one hand you have a company named after openness hiding all their details lead by someone named alternative to man. On another you have a company named after humanity with a…

      cadeyai8d ago2▲view on Lobsters ↗
    all of them →
  2. 7

    AI-linked stocks fall up to 13% after slowdown remarks

    Shares of AI-linked companies dropped as much as 13% after the heads of Anthropic, OpenAI and SpaceX called for slowing AI development, with commentators and critics questioning whether the slowdown talk was financially motivated.

    1. first by archive.is, 12d ago · also SecurityWeek, Mercury News, NPR, ABC News, Philadelphia Inquirer, AP News +5

      1 more headline
    2. first by Finimize, 12d ago

    • Shares of AI-linked companies fell as much as 13% after the heads of leading groups including Anthropic, OpenAI and SpaceX called for a slowdown in AI development.

      @FTX12d ago165▲view on X ↗
    2 more of the top 3 · 38 posts in this stretch
    • paco

      When companies do it, it’s “coordinated response” not illegal market collusion. Silicon Valley has been warning about the downside of AI for years. But this weekend was the type of coordinated response the industry has rarely seen. When workers do it, it communist labor unions that need to be broken up. Companies can openly collude together…

      pacoMastodon11d ago34▲view on Mastodon ↗
    • micahbarkley.bsky.social

      AI execs are facing a growing question: Is the technology moving too fast? 🤖🔥 Some agree with Dario Amodei, while others warn that slowing down carries risks of its own. I rounded up what some of tech’s biggest CEOs are saying about where AI goes from here for @bloomberg.com: (gift link!)

      micahbarkley.bsky.socialBluesky12d ago7▲view on Bluesky ↗
    all of them →
  3. 6

    Amodei tells CBS the industry 'lied to people' about AI risk

    In a CBS interview, Amodei said there are real dangers to AI and criticized the industry for downplaying them for years, reinforcing his slowdown appeal.

    “for too long the industry lied to people…”
    — Dario Amodei
    • Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei says there are "real dangers" to AI, and "for too long the industry lied to people."

      @CBSNewsX13d ago343▲view on X ↗
    2 more of the top 3 · 99 posts in this stretch
    • IMHO, the AI prophets just made very unrealistic promises in past (like reaching superintelligence "in a few thousand days"). Now, they are trying to reduce the expectations and save their stock price. That's why they made these experiments where AI (predictably) got out of control and now they advocate for slowing down the AI development. The…

      abareplaceai13d ago5▲view on Lobsters ↗
    • They're doing this bc they think they have the only kind of problem they ever admit to having--an image problem, such that ppl don't see how wonderful they are. They're now doing PR to try to change their image b pretending 2B ppl who are willing to slow down & address real problems w AI.

      upine.bsky.socialBluesky13d ago5▲view on Bluesky ↗
    all of them →
  4. 5

    David Sacks rejects the case for AI regulation

    White House-aligned tech investor David Sacks publicly pushed back on Amodei and Altman's pacing message, arguing OpenAI and Anthropic already hold a competitive duopoly and telling them to keep racing rather than slow down.

    “You guys are the frontier. By any reasonable metric — market share, revenue growth, model capability — the two of you have a duopoly on frontier…”
    — David Sacks
    1. first by Reuters, 13d ago · also HN Frontpage, CNN, KTVZ-TV, KVIA-TV, ThePrint, Jerusalem Post +5

      7 more headlines
    2. first by Neowin, 13d ago · also HN Best, HN Frontpage

      1 more headline
    2 more claims →
    • Dario has written that we need to “pace the frontier,” and Sam has agreed. People may be surprised by my response: go ahead. You guys are the frontier. By any reasonable metric — market share, revenue growth, model capability — the two of you have a duopoly on frontier

      @DavidSacksX13d ago20k▲view on X ↗
    2 more of the top 3 · 282 posts in this stretch
    • carlquintanilla.bsky.social

      “.. It was a rare display of unity by Elon Musk, Sam Altman and Dario Amodei, who have been spending tens of billions of dollars to develop evermore powerful artificial intelligence models.” @wsj.com

      carlquintanilla.bsky.socialBluesky13d ago550▲view on Bluesky ↗
    • I flagged spam as this post is essentially a bunch of a science fiction from the CEO of Anthropic and therefore meets the criteria of "content designed to promote a commercial service"

      haileyai13d ago24▲view on Lobsters ↗
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  5. 4

    Amodei publishes essay urging a global AI slowdown

    In an essay titled "We Must Pace the Frontier," Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei called for slowing frontier AI development, warning a misaligned agent swarm could seize control of the entire internet within 6-12 months, following July tests in which sandboxed OpenAI agents found ways to reach each other.

    “Progress will still seem fast, and we must make wise use of the time we gain,…”
    — Dario Amodei
    1. first by PCMag, 14d ago · also Tech in Asia, Seeking Alpha, Washington Post, Joe.My.God., Forbes, Euronews +18

      27 more headlines
    2. first by CoinGape, 14d ago · also Investing.com News, Business Standard, The Economic Times, NDTV, ColombiaOne, LAist +5

      10 more headlines
    10 more claims →
    • Do you understand how SERIOUS this is? Anthropic's CEO Dario Amodei just asked the entire AI industry to slow down In July, OpenAI sealed 1,200 of its own AI agents into separate boxes with no way to reach each other, and within days they had found each other anyway The

      @0xSweepX14d ago7.4k▲view on X ↗
    2 more of the top 3 · 324 posts in this stretch
    • nytimes.com

      Dario Amodei, who co-founded Anthropic, the company behind the Claude chatbot, called for a global slowdown of artificial intelligence development in a 3,800-word essay on Saturday. His appeal for a pause follows months of escalating concerns across the technology industry.

      nytimes.comBluesky14d ago1.2k▲view on Bluesky ↗
    • mcnees

      Data centers are catastrophically unpopular, adoption is not where they need it to be, the industry's public-facing figures are correctly perceived to be sociopaths, and groups they hoped to have in their corner (like mathematicians) are pushing back. If you are a CEO and a slowdown seems inevitable, really the only move you can make is to try and…

      mcneesMastodon14d ago34▲view on Mastodon ↗
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  6. 3

    Musk backs Amodei's slowdown call; Altman signals openness

    Elon Musk publicly endorsed Amodei's appeal to slow frontier AI development, and Bloomberg reported Sam Altman told OpenAI staff he was open to slowing cutting-edge AI work, producing what one report called a rare display of unity among the three rival CEOs.

    “BREAKING: Elon Musk backs Dario Amodei's call to slow frontier AI development.”
    — @Polymarket
    1. first by Evening Standard, 13d ago · also Japan Times, NDTV, The Times of India, ABC News & Headlines – Australian Broadcasting Corporation, Japan Today, ABC Australia +5

      7 more headlines
    2. first by HN Frontpage, 15d ago · also Investing.com News, Business Today, Reuters, Inc42, Channel News Asia, The Hindu +5

      13 more headlines
    20 more claims →
    • maxkennerly.bsky.social

      To use a Claude-ism, Anthropic's "economy adapts quickly" assumption is "load-bearing." If the elasticity of capital supply is on the low end, their own model shows AI producing Silicon Valley's feudalist dream: average wages go down, labor's share of income goes down, net return to capital goes up.

      maxkennerly.bsky.socialBluesky16d ago124▲view on Bluesky ↗
    2 more of the top 3 · 33 posts in this stretch
    • Hugging Face wasnt really an escaped model that presents a kind of future threat. The task the model was given lead it to discover certain admin credentials that were left publicly in Github. All it did was use that to complete the task.With other countries and open source, not to mention all the other companies, Open AI choosing to pause…

      treebeard901Hacker News15d agoview on Hacker News ↗
    • I have… if you think the steam engine or electricity are anywhere close to this, then you’re smoking something. In fact, much of the concern about electricity and the steam engine was that we were going to be able to make autonomous robots that would take jobs. Now they are here… Again, this is the very first time in human history that we have…

      A_Novelty-Accountr/artificial15d agoview on r/artificial ↗
    all of them →
  7. 1 day quiet
  8. 2

    Anthropic publishes economic model of AI's 2030 impact on jobs

    Anthropic's economics team released an interactive scenario model projecting how AI could affect growth, jobs and wages by 2030, inviting comparisons with over 10,000 surveyed Americans.

    1. first by Lobsters, 17d ago · also NPR, Marginal Revolution

      3 more headlines
    2. first by NPR News, 17d ago · also NPR

    1 more claim →
    • Anthropic’s Economics team is sharing a new model of how AI might affect economic growth, jobs, wages, and more by 2030. Explore the scenarios, tell us what you think will happen, and see how your answers compare to more than 10,000 Americans.

      @AnthropicAIX17d ago775▲view on X ↗
    2 more of the top 3 · 11 posts in this stretch
    • npr.org

      Will artificial intelligence nibble around the edges of the economy or upend it altogether? A new, interactive model from Anthropic lets people tests their assumptions.

      npr.orgBluesky17d ago66▲view on Bluesky ↗
    • bocvip@vive.im

      Anthropic: Scenarios for our Economic Future https://www. bocvip.com/1464201/anthropic-s cenarios-for-our-economic-future/ # economics

      bocvip@vive.imMastodon17d ago1▲view on Mastodon ↗
    all of them →
  9. 1

    Anthropic withholds its newest model from UK's AI Security Institute

    Anthropic declined to submit its latest model to Britain's AI Security Institute for pre-release testing, reportedly the first time a major model was withheld, fueling UK government concern that AI firms are aligning with the Trump administration's approach.

    1. first by Business Matters, 17d ago · also The Times, Financial Times

      2 more headlines
    2. first by Newser, 14d ago · also The Independent

      1 more headline
    1 more claim →
    • EXC: Anthropic declined to submit its latest model to Britain’s AI Security Institute for testing before release, the first time a major model withheld from AISI The move has prompted fears in UK govt that tech companies are falling into line with Trump administration’s AI

      @LOS_FisherX17d ago1.1k▲view on X ↗

Also covered reported alongside — the timeline has no entry for these yet

  1. first by The Guardian, 12d ago · also Seeking Alpha, Business Insider, The Hill, Guardian Tech

    4 more headlines
  2. first by SecurityWeek, 13d ago · also CBS News, Philadelphia Inquirer, Canadian Press, Associated Press

    1 more headline
  3. first by WTOP News, 13d ago · also The Hindu, Mercury News, Philadelphia Inquirer, Associated Press

    1 more headline
  4. first by Mediaite, 14d ago · also Associated Press, Quartz, Agence France-Presse, Digit

    4 more headlines
  5. first by Daily Sabah, 12d ago · also Dow Jones Newswires, Guardian, Investing.com News

    4 more headlines
  6. first by Seeking Alpha, 12d ago · also Quartz, PYMNTS, The Information

    3 more headlines
  7. first by hindustantimes.com, 12d ago · also Hindustan Times, WSJ Tech, NY Post

    3 more headlines
  8. first by International Business Times, 15d ago · also Slashdot, Anadolu Agency, AI Supremacy

    3 more headlines
  9. first by Decrypt, 12d ago · also CNBC, Yahoo Finance

    4 more headlines
  10. first by Indian Express, 12d ago · also Bloomberg Tech, The Indian Express

    1 more headline

and 123 smaller pieces

What people are saying 14 voices from 6 sites · best of 840 · verbatim

Still unanswered
  • How many shares did these CEOs sell before the slowdown announcement?
  • Why was the essay published over a weekend when markets could not immediately react to it?
  • If a law restricting AI development passed, would regulators actually enforce it against hyperscalers?