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Gruber questions whether iPhone 18 Pro is Apple's true flagship as Duo steals focus

John Gruber's review suggests the iPhone Duo, not the Pro, has become Apple's headline device for 2026.

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What to know

  • Apple's iPhone 18 Pro is the 20th flagship iPhone model since 2007, with incremental camera improvements including variable aperture, but lacks the excitement of prior generational leaps.
  • The iPhone Duo, not the Pro, received top billing at Apple's announcement keynote and is driving the company's marketing push, blurring which device is truly the flagship.
  • For the first time, the iPhone lineup lacks marketing clarity about which model is the flagship, as Apple did not formally announce when standard iPhone 18 or iPhone Air successor models will arrive.

John Gruber Tech analyst and Daring Fireball founderApple Device manufacturer

Gruber questions whether iPhone 18 Pro is Apple's true flagship as Duo steals focus
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How it unfolded 3 developments, newest first · click a bar or a number to jump articlesvideospostscomments

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  1. 3

    Manton Reece notes historical detail about iPhone 3GS video recording

    Manton Reece, discussing Gruber's review on Mastodon, adds that the iPhone 3GS was the first iPhone with video recording, a significant milestone he had personal experience with through his app Clipstart.

    “There's a great list of all flagship iPhone releases at the beginning of John Gruber's new iPhone 18 Pro review. The only thing I'd add is the 3GS was the first with video recording.”
    — Manton Reece, Software developer · source
    1. first by Tom's Guide, 5d ago · also MacDailyNews, The Mac Observer, iPhone in Canada, MacRumors Forums, MacRumors, CNET +3

      7 more headlines
    2. first by Mastodon, 3d ago · also iThinkDifferent, TechSpot, 9to5Mac, iFixit News, The Verge, Engadget +2

      11 more headlines
    • iFixit@mastodon.social

      Good news: the battery screws in. Bad news: you have to go through the display to get there. Our iPhone 18 Pro teardown is live now on YouTube!

      iFixit@mastodon.socialMastodon2d ago25▲view on Mastodon ↗
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    • I am not surprised! The first iPhone 18 Pro review I saw was from a famous YouTuber who made a 10+ minute video turning every negative into a positive. If someone as big as that person, with so much leverage, is afraid to say anything negative, imagine all the smaller creators!

      @fahim_al_mahmudX2d agoview on X ↗
    • Zero benefit to this "manual" aperture control. How much difference, really, will their be to your precious depth of field while shooting with a pinhole camera? Eliminate this and drop the price of the phone $150.

      FUMoneyr/technology2d agoview on r/technology ↗
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  2. 1

    Gruber argues iPhone Duo has become Apple's true flagship device

    Gruber observes that the iPhone Duo received the anchor spot in Apple's announcement keynote and is dominating marketing efforts, including billboards and red carpet appearances, while the iPhone 18 Pro lacks the prominence historically expected of a flagship. He notes that unlike previous years, it is not "obviously clear" which iPhone is the flagship this generation.

    “But the 18 Pro debuted alongside the iPhone Duo. The Duo got the anchor spot in the announcement keynote. The Duo is getting the billboards.”
    — John Gruber
    1. first by SMH.com.au, 7d ago · also Mashable, Notebookcheck, iPhone in Canada, MacRumors, The Times of India, Tom's Guide +2

      9 more headlines
    • gruber@mastodon.social

      Only a little late this year. https:// daringfireball.net/2026/09/the _iphones_18_pro

      gruber@mastodon.socialMastodon6d ago16▲view on Mastodon ↗
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    • daringfireball@mastodon.social

      ★ The iPhones 18 Pro https:// daringfireball.net/2026/09/the _iphones_18_pro

      daringfireball@mastodon.socialMastodon6d agoview on Mastodon ↗
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  3. 2

    Gruber publishes iPhone 18 Pro review questioning its flagship status

    John Gruber publishes a review of the iPhone 18 Pro noting that it is the 20th new flagship iPhone model since 2007, with a complete historical list of all releases. He describes the device as "the best version of the most successful product ever made" but acknowledges it lacks excitement due to how it improved.

    “It's the best version of the most successful product ever made. And yet by nature of *how* the iPhone 18 Pro improved in the last year, it's not exciting at all.”
    — John Gruber
    1. first by techguide.com.au, 4d ago · also MacRumors, 9to5Mac, PhoneArena, Tom's Guide, The National UAE, iDrop News

      9 more headlines
    2. first by GSMArena.com, 5d ago · also AppleInsider, TechInsights

      2 more headlines
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Also covered reported alongside — the timeline has no entry for these yet

  1. first by MobileSyrup, 2d ago · also HotHardware, Mashable, Tom's Guide

    5 more headlines
  2. first by MacRumors, 5d ago · also AFR, Australian Financial Review

    2 more headlines
  3. first by iClarified, 4d ago · also iThinkDifferent

    1 more headline
  4. first by Mastodon, 2d ago · also The Verge

  5. first by Telegraph, 7d ago · also The Telegraph

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What people are saying 6 voices from 3 sites · best of 13 · verbatim