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Pentagon probe ties Palantir's Maven AI to Iran school strike that killed children

Bloomberg reporting cited by officials says the Maven Smart System flagged a Minab, Iran elementary school as a target using outdated intelligence, prompting online demands for Thiel's prosecution.

What to know

  • Bloomberg's reporting, cited via a Bluesky post, says Pentagon investigators found Palantir's Maven AI significantly involved in a strike that hit a school in Minab, Iran on February 28.
  • The reported investigation attributes the error to outdated intelligence still labeling the site an IRGC facility plus human over-reliance on Maven to catch such errors.
  • The story is spreading almost entirely through social reaction (nearly 500 comments, 13,000+ likes on the originating post) rather than fresh reporting beyond the cited Bloomberg piece.
  • Online reaction is dominated by calls for Peter Thiel's prosecution and broader alarm about AI systems being used in lethal targeting decisions.

The dispute Whether blame falls primarily on Palantir's AI system itself or on the human operators and intelligence process that trusted it. · positions read across 295 posts and comments

most voices

Peter Thiel and Palantir should face criminal prosecution or war crimes charges for the strike.

  • “Peter Thiel should be tried at The Hague for wars crimes.”

    teamx2024.bsky.social · Bluesky ↗
many voices

This incident shows AI should not be trusted with or involved in military targeting decisions.

  • “So the robots are killing humans & we are letting them”

    yogiheathor.bsky.social · Bluesky ↗
some voices

The real failure was human over-reliance on the system and stale intelligence, not the AI acting alone.

  • “Maven did not independently decide to bomb the school. Humans supplied the underlying intelligence & ultimately approved the strike.”

    xtrahope1515.bsky.social · Bluesky ↗

Peter ThielPeter Thiel Palantir co-founderPalantir Technologies Defense contractor, maker of Maven Smart SystemU.S. Pentagon Subject of the internal investigationJ.D. Vance U.S. Vice President, mentioned in discussion

How it unfolded 5 developments, newest first · click a bar or a number to jump postscomments

Peak 122 pieces in two hours at Sep 20, 10 AM; 295 pieces over 5 days (2 posts · 293 comments) Sep 20, 10 AM — 122 pieces · 2 posts · 120 comments — Bluesky 121, Mastodon 1Sep 20, 12 PM — 87 pieces · 87 comments — Bluesky 87Sep 20, 2 PM — 30 pieces · 30 comments — Bluesky 30Sep 20, 4 PM — 16 pieces · 16 comments — Bluesky 16Sep 20, 6 PM — 11 pieces · 11 comments — Bluesky 11Sep 20, 8 PM — 5 pieces · 5 comments — Bluesky 5Sep 20, 10 PM — 2 pieces · 2 comments — Bluesky 2Sep 21, 12 AM — 3 pieces · 3 comments — Bluesky 3Sep 21, 2 AM — quietSep 21, 4 AM — 3 pieces · 3 comments — Bluesky 3Sep 21, 6 AM — quietSep 21, 8 AM — 4 pieces · 4 comments — Bluesky 4Sep 21, 10 AM — 7 pieces · 7 comments — Bluesky 7Sep 21, 12 PM — 2 pieces · 2 comments — Bluesky 2Sep 21, 2 PM — quietSep 21, 4 PM — 2 pieces · 2 comments — Bluesky 2Sep 21, 6 PM — quietSep 21, 8 PM — quietSep 21, 10 PM — quietSep 22, 12 AM — quietSep 22, 2 AM — quietSep 22, 4 AM — quietSep 22, 6 AM — quietSep 22, 8 AM — 1 piece · 1 comment — Bluesky 1Sep 22, 10 AM — quietSep 22, 12 PM — quietSep 22, 2 PM — quietSep 22, 4 PM — quietSep 22, 6 PM — quietSep 22, 8 PM — quietSep 22, 10 PM — quietSep 23, 12 AM — quietSep 23, 2 AM — quietSep 23, 4 AM — quietSep 23, 6 AM — quietSep 23, 8 AM — quietSep 23, 10 AM — quietSep 23, 12 PM — quietSep 23, 2 PM — quietSep 23, 4 PM — quietSep 23, 6 PM — quietSep 23, 8 PM — quietSep 23, 10 PM — quietYesterday, 12 AM — quietYesterday, 2 AM — quietYesterday, 4 AM — quietYesterday, 6 AM — quietYesterday, 8 AM — quietYesterday, 10 AM — quietYesterday, 12 PM — quietYesterday, 2 PM — quietYesterday, 4 PM — quietYesterday, 6 PM — quietYesterday, 8 PM — quietYesterday, 10 PM — quietToday, 12 AM — quietToday, 2 AM — quiet 1–45
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  1. 5

    Reaction wave continues, framing Thiel as accused of war crimes

    Hours after the initial post, commentary continued characterizing Thiel as a war criminal and calling for consequences, with the thread accumulating hundreds of comments and thousands of reposts.

    “Alright. So now Peter Thiel is a war criminal too. I like this because he belongs in a dungeon somewhere.”
    — mercime.bsky.social
    • Alright. So now Peter Thiel is a war criminal too. I like this because he belongs in a dungeon somewhere.

      mercime.bsky.socialBluesky4d ago25▲view on Bluesky ↗
    2 more of the top 3 · 109 posts in this stretch
    • They will be investigated believe me after midterms, it will take decades, to unearth everything

      hippieatheart.bsky.socialBluesky4d ago21▲view on Bluesky ↗
    • Excuses. There's no justification for bombing school children.

      grammacat.bsky.socialBluesky4d ago11▲view on Bluesky ↗
    all of them →
  2. 4

    Users link report to prior AI targeting scare with China

    A commenter asked whether this was connected to an earlier reported incident in which an AI-generated intelligence error nearly provoked a US-China military confrontation over a false report of nuclear weapons components aboard a Chinese ship.

    • And just a reminder: J.D. Vance is Thiel's Manchurian Candidate.

      patio-furniture.bsky.socialBluesky4d ago137▲view on Bluesky ↗
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    • "Smart System." "War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength." — George Orwell, 1984

      auntpatty.bsky.socialBluesky4d ago75▲view on Bluesky ↗
    • Thiel is evil. And Palantir is everywhere. Wonder where all the data went that DOGE stole? Palantir has it. And NHS data in the UK. And lots more. Plus they're doing stuff like this. It's the most frightening development most people don't even know about.

      kikime2.bsky.socialBluesky4d ago65▲view on Bluesky ↗
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  3. 3

    Commenters debate blame between AI system and human operators

    Some users argued the failure lay in human over-reliance on Maven and stale intelligence rather than the AI acting independently, while others said AI should never be involved in target selection.

    “Maven did not independently decide to bomb the school. Humans supplied the underlying intelligence & ultimately approved the strike.”
    — xtrahope1515.bsky.social
    • This is why he moved to Argentina and has bunkers.

      rheabies.bsky.socialBluesky4d ago137▲view on Bluesky ↗
    2 more of the top 3 · 20 posts in this stretch
    • Peter Thiel should be tried at The Hague for wars crimes.

      teamx2024.bsky.socialBluesky4d ago90▲view on Bluesky ↗
    • Stale intelligence + AI targeting + human overreliance = a school on the target list.🚨🤦 If this is what AI-enabled warfare looks like, maybe we should stop treating civilians as beta testers.🤬🇨🇦

      xtrahope1515.bsky.socialBluesky4d ago82▲view on Bluesky ↗
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  4. 2

    Bluesky users demand Thiel face prosecution or war crimes charges

    Commenters called for Peter Thiel to be tried at The Hague, prosecuted criminally, and for Palantir executives to be held accountable, framing the strike as a consequence of AI-enabled targeting.

    “Peter Thiel should be tried at The Hague for wars crimes.”
    — teamx2024.bsky.social
    • So the robots are killing humans & we are letting them

      yogiheathor.bsky.socialBluesky4d ago90▲view on Bluesky ↗
    2 more of the top 3 · 3 posts in this stretch
    • AltAltNPS@noc.social

      Bloomberg reports that officials directly involved in an internal Pentagon investigation found that Peter Thiel’s Palantir Maven Smart System played a significant role in the February 28 U.S. strike on the Shajareh Tayyebeh Elementary School in Minab, Iran. https:// bsky.app/profile/altnps.bsky.s ocial/post/3mvxhff3sns26 - From resistance team of…

      AltAltNPS@noc.socialMastodon4d agoview on Mastodon ↗
    • Perhaps helps explain that whackadoodle interview on CNBC Friday ...

      goldenzgirl.bsky.socialBluesky4d ago20▲view on Bluesky ↗
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  5. 1

    Investigation finds stale intelligence and over-reliance on Maven

    According to the reported investigation, the Pentagon used outdated intelligence still identifying the site as an IRGC facility, and personnel over-trusted Maven to flag stale or conflicting data; the system did not, and the school appeared as a recommended target.

    “the Pentagon relied on outdated intelligence that still identified the site as an IRGC facility, while personnel placed too much trust in Maven to flag stale or conflicting information. It didn't.”
    — altnps.bsky.social
    • altnps.bsky.social

      Bloomberg reports that officials directly involved in an internal Pentagon investigation found that Peter Thiel’s Palantir Maven Smart System played a significant role in the February 28 U.S. strike on the Shajareh Tayyebeh Elementary School in Minab, Iran.

      altnps.bsky.socialBluesky4d ago14k▲view on Bluesky ↗
    1 more of the top 2 · 2 posts in this stretch
    • altnps.bsky.social

      According to the investigation, the Pentagon relied on outdated intelligence that still identified the site as an IRGC facility, while personnel placed too much trust in Maven to flag stale or conflicting information. It didn’t. The school ultimately appeared as a recommended target.

      altnps.bsky.socialBluesky4d ago2.0k▲view on Bluesky ↗
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  6. background

    Bloomberg ties Palantir's Maven AI to the Iran school strike — Bloomberg reported that officials directly involved in an internal Pentagon investigation found that Palantir's Maven Smart System played a significant role in selecting the school as a strike target.

  7. background

    U.S. strike hits Shajareh Tayyebeh Elementary School in Minab, Iran — A U.S. military strike hit the school in Minab, Iran, an incident later examined by an internal Pentagon investigation.

What people are saying 14 voices from 1 site · best of 295 · verbatim

Still unanswered
  • Is this related to the earlier reported AI-generated false intelligence incident involving a Chinese ship and nuclear weapons components?
  • What specific role did Maven's targeting recommendation play versus human sign-off in the final strike decision?