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Harris joins El-Sayed for Detroit maternal healthcare event

Kamala Harris appeared alongside Michigan Senate candidate Abdul El-Sayed at a roundtable, reviving debate over the 2024 'uncommitted movement' and Black voter support.

What to know

  • Harris and El-Sayed's joint Detroit appearance, 42 days before the midterms, is widely read as an effort to shore up Black voter support for his Michigan Senate bid.
  • The event reopened debate over the 2024 'uncommitted' movement, with many commenters blaming it for contributing to Trump's election.
  • A competing view holds that El-Sayed's weaker Black-voter standing stems from primary-era attack ads against him, not the uncommitted movement.

The dispute Whether the 2024 'uncommitted' movement is to blame for Trump's election and any rift with Black voters, or whether that blame is misdirected from centrist Democrats' Gaza policy and local primary attacks on El-Sayed. · positions read across 153 posts and comments

most voices

The Harris-El-Sayed appearance is a positive, gracious show of party unity that could help Democrats.

  • “The irony: Black women are always expected to save the world, often by the same people who turned their backs on them. This right here is grace.”

    dizappearingact.bsky.social · Bluesky ↗
many voices

The 2024 'uncommitted' movement helped hand the presidency to Trump and its legacy still hurts Democratic prospects.

  • “We all remember how the "uncommitted" movement helped to elect Trump and that led to the death of likely thousands of more Palestinians.”

    dock-knowtorious.bsky.social · Bluesky ↗
some voices

Blaming the uncommitted movement is misplaced; genocide funding by Democrats, or local primary attacks, are the real causes of any rift.

  • “Democrats who didn't oppose Genocide and Trump voters got you Trump a second time.”

    stephaniebakes247.bsky.social · Bluesky ↗

Kamala HarrisKamala Harris Former Vice PresidentAbdul El-SayedAbdul El-Sayed Michigan Senate candidate

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    Commenter traces El-Sayed's Black-support gap to primary attacks, not uncommitted

    A commenter countered the dominant narrative, arguing El-Sayed's weaker standing among Black voters in Michigan stems from ads run during his primary race against Stevens rather than the uncommitted movement.

    “His supposed lack of support in the Black community in MI traces not to Uncommitted but rather to the primary race against Stevens.”
    — novapsyche444.bsky.social
    • maverickhammed.bsky.social

      👉 ❤️ It is so REFRESHING to listen to a politician who STAYS on message, uses CLEAR and PLAIN language... Abdul is too damn good! "With 42 days until Election Day, the race to control Congress is now in high gear. Kamala Harris joins Abdul El-Sayed at a roundtable in Detroit." @pbsnews.org

      maverickhammed.bsky.socialBluesky1d ago42▲view on Bluesky ↗
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    • Any segment of Democrats, from ANYwhere on the political spectrum spanning the party, who withholds their vote because the nominee is not where they want them to be on said spectrum, is causing longterm damage to the nation.

      jacklbrand.bsky.socialBluesky1d ago28▲view on Bluesky ↗
    • cwebbonline.com

      Imagine hearing Kamala Harris talk about maternal healthcare, an issue where Black women are literally dying at disproportionate rates, and your contribution is “but she lost to Trump.” Deep stuff, man.

      cwebbonline.comBluesky1d ago26▲view on Bluesky ↗
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    Others revive blame over 2024 'uncommitted' movement

    A separate cluster of commenters argued the uncommitted movement contributed to Trump's 2024 election and questioned whether the Harris appearance could repair the damage.

    “We all remember how the "uncommitted" movement helped to elect Trump and that led to the death of likely thousands of more Palestinians.”
    — dock-knowtorious.bsky.social
    • That woman has so much grace and is a total team player.

      sundodger97.bsky.socialBluesky1d ago34▲view on Bluesky ↗
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    • We all remember how the "uncommitted" movement helped to elect Trump and that led to the death of likely thousands of more Palestinians. If you look at what the uncommitted movement did, rather than what they say, it seems clear they support Trump and don't really support Palestinians at all.

      dock-knowtorious.bsky.socialBluesky1d ago33▲view on Bluesky ↗
    • Thats what I've been saying. I remember black creators being attacked and called genocide supporters because they supported Kamala

      drhello.bsky.socialBluesky1d ago24▲view on Bluesky ↗
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    Commenters praise Harris's demeanor and call for party unity

    Many commenters described Harris as gracious and a team player, framing the appearance as a hopeful sign of Democratic unity ahead of the midterms.

    “The irony: Black women are always expected to save the world, often by the same people who turned their backs on them. This right here is grace.”
    — dizappearingact.bsky.social
    • The irony: Black women are always expected to save the world, often by the same people who turned their backs on them. This right here is grace. It should never be confused with obligation. IJS

      dizappearingact.bsky.socialBluesky1d ago95▲view on Bluesky ↗
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    • Thanks for sharing former Vice President, unfortunately when I hear her speak, I get pissed at what could have been, but always love to hear her.

      farawayeyes78.bsky.socialBluesky1d ago63▲view on Bluesky ↗
    • well if it is on social media then it has gotta be true

      karencox1963.bsky.socialBluesky1d ago9▲view on Bluesky ↗
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    Commentator says appearance targets Black support in Michigan

    A widely shared post argued the joint appearance was a necessary strategic move for El-Sayed to strengthen Black support given lingering resentment from the 2024 uncommitted movement.

    “Holding this maternal healthcare event alongside Harris was a smart move by El-Sayed, and a necessary one. He needs to strengthen Black support in Michigan.”
    — cwebbonline.com
    • cwebbonline.com

      Holding this maternal healthcare event alongside Harris was a smart move by El-Sayed, and a necessary one. He needs to strengthen Black support in Michigan. The divisions of the 2024 uncommitted movement were real, and Black voters haven’t forgotten how ugly that election became. #HealthcareForAll

      cwebbonline.comBluesky1d ago6.0k▲view on Bluesky ↗
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    • Let's see all the leftists denounce him as a traitor for making an appearance with "Holocaust" Harris. 🦗... 🦗... 🦗... Leftist privilege.

      spikeddoormat.bsky.socialBluesky1d ago61▲view on Bluesky ↗
    • Anyone involved in Uncommitted Movement (rat fuck op to get Trump back in office) will never get my respect nor my vote. I’m so glad I don’t like in Michigan

      manatee123.bsky.socialBluesky1d ago14▲view on Bluesky ↗
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  5. background

    Harris and El-Sayed hold maternal healthcare roundtable in Detroit — Kamala Harris appeared with Michigan Senate candidate Abdul El-Sayed at a Detroit event focused on maternal healthcare, with the midterm election 42 days away.

What people are saying 12 voices from 1 site · best of 153 · verbatim

Still unanswered
  • Will the joint appearance actually improve El-Sayed's standing with Black voters in Michigan?
  • Was the 'uncommitted' movement or the Stevens primary campaign the real source of El-Sayed's weaker Black-voter support?