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NY Times sues Brave browser for scraping content to train AI

Publishers allege the privacy-focused browser monetized stolen news by selling access to AI companies and providing paywall-bypass tools.

What to know

  • The New York Times and three other publishers sued Brave for scraping copyrighted content and selling paid access to AI companies including Anthropic, Perplexity, Mistral, xAI, and Cohere.
  • The lawsuits target both Brave's content-scraping practices and its "Paywall blocker" feature, which publishers say circumvents their paywalls without consent or compensation.
  • Perplexity's communications chief disputed the lawsuit's characterization of events, but most named AI companies and Brave itself have not responded.

“AI giants are now desperate to avoid getting caught red-handed stealing news from publishers, so Brave Software is selling them a back door to the journalism they know they have no right to.”

Steven Lieberman, Attorney for co-plaintiffs · The Verge ↗

New York Times Lead plaintiffBrave Software DefendantAnthropic, Perplexity, Mistral, xAI, Cohere AI companies named in lawsuitNew York Daily News, Chicago Tribune, Orlando Sentinel Co-plaintiffsJesse Dwyer Perplexity chief communications officer

NY Times sues Brave browser for scraping content to train AI
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    Perplexity's chief communications officer disputes lawsuit claims

    Jesse Dwyer, Perplexity's chief communications officer, responded to the lawsuit by attacking the Times' legal and editorial practices, saying the outlet is "overpaying its attorneys and underpaying its journalists" and claiming the Times could have "easily identified the disinformation in this suit."

    “The New York Times is overpaying its attorneys and underpaying its journalists. (Who could've easily identified the disinformation in this suit.)…”
    — Jesse Dwyer
    1. first by New York Daily News, 5d ago · also Orlando Sentinel, Baltimore Sun, Mercury News, Chicago Tribune, The Wrap, Yahoo +1

      4 more headlines
    • fogomet.bsky.social

      Waarom zet een krant überhaupt artikelen op het internet achter een Betaalmuur? Levert dat écht abonnees op?

      fogomet.bsky.socialBluesky3d ago9▲view on Bluesky ↗
    2 more of the top 3 · 20 posts in this stretch
    • jbz@indieweb.social

      🦁 The NYT sues Brave for stealing its content and reselling it to AI companies 「 “In this way, Brave acts both like a burglar that misappropriates the content of publishers, and an AI ‘fence’ that sells stolen content to third parties,” the suit reads. It says Brave built an index of more than 30 billion webpages using an unidentified crawler…

      jbz@indieweb.socialMastodon5d ago1▲view on Mastodon ↗
    • It works by having government owned media networks. Like the CBC in Canada. Or the BBC in the uk. The issue is, as much as the CBC leans politically the same way I do. I still think they are bias towards left leaning things. And that’s not right. Not saying the corporate news networks ARENT bias in either direction. But at least you can choose…

      Remote-Combination28r/technology3d agoview on r/technology ↗
    all of them →
  2. background

    New York Times calls for accountability; attorney frames as content laundering — NYT spokesperson Graham James stated the Times filed to hold Brave accountable for stealing content. Steven Lieberman, attorney for the three other publishers, characterized Brave as "selling" AI companies "a back door to the journalism they know they have no right to."

  3. background

    Publishers cite Brave's paywall-blocking feature as copyright violation — The lawsuits highlight Brave's "Paywall blocker" feature, which promotes "hundreds of top publishers" as accessible through the browser, allowing users to bypass paywalls without publisher consent or compensation.

  4. background

    Brave allegedly monetized scraped content through paid AI access — According to the complaints, Brave monetized an index of scraped websites by providing AI companies with paid access to "real-time online content from the Brave Index," which the companies then used to train models and respond to user queries. The lawsuits name Anthropic, Perplexity, Mistral, xAI, and Cohere as recipients of this stolen content.

  5. background

    New York Times and three other publishers sue Brave over content scraping — The New York Times filed a lawsuit against Brave Software, joined by complaints from the New York Daily News, Chicago Tribune, and Orlando Sentinel, alleging the browser maker unlawfully scraped their copyrighted content and provided it to AI companies without permission.

Also covered reported alongside — the timeline has no entry for these yet

  1. first by Bloomberg Law News, 5d ago · also The Verge, Search Engine Journal, TechCrunch, Seeking Alpha

    4 more headlines
  2. first by Reuters, 5d ago · also Daring Fireball

    1 more headline
  3. first by Mastodon, 4d ago · also Ars Technica

and 2 smaller pieces

What people are saying 13 voices from 3 sites · best of 20 · verbatim