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Carney Faces Quebec Backlash After Barring Premier's EU Summit Speech

A seating and speaking-slot fight with Quebec's new separatist premier has overshadowed Carney's push for closer Canada-EU ties in Montreal.

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Carney Faces Quebec Backlash After Barring Premier's EU Summit Speech

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  1. Canada and EU open Montreal summit to forge a 'new chapter' in ties
  2. Carney says US is moving toward Canada's position in trade talks
  3. Carney Faces Quebec Backlash After Barring Premier's EU Summit Speechyou are here

What to know

  • Carney hosts EU leaders in Montreal Oct. 29-30 to advance a strategic partnership on trade, critical minerals and defense.
  • Quebec's newly elected separatist premier was denied a chance to address the summit, igniting a public feud with Carney over respect and provincial jurisdiction.
  • The draft joint declaration reportedly avoids discussing von der Leyen's 'associate member' offer to Canada, which several EU countries already oppose.
  • Trump's congratulatory message to the separatist premier adds pressure on Carney amid his already strained relationship with Washington.

The dispute Commenters split on whether Carney's EU push is substantive progress or an unfulfilled promise, and whether expanded mobility would benefit or harm ordinary Canadians. · positions read across 68 posts and comments

many voices

Carney has promised an improved EU/US trade relationship for over a year without delivering concrete results.

  • “Doesn't change the fact he promised a deal, an even better deal, and hasn't delivered. That's called lying.”

    Radical_Redditor · reddit ↗
some voices

Expanded EU mobility and immigration tied to the partnership could hurt young Canadian workers.

  • “To the carney supporters here, how do you feel about his announcement to increase immigration and now giving young people freedom of movement rights? Won't this screw over young Canadians?”

    Typical_Fruit_331 · reddit ↗
some voices

Domestic legislation like Bill C-22 could undermine the trade relationship Carney is trying to build with the EU.

  • “Carney better be hoping that the Senate fixes or even kills his bill C-22 legislation, as it'll significantly harm trade between Canada and the EU. No EU company that cares about privacy is going to want to invest in a country that has…”

    EmbarrassedHelp · reddit ↗

“When you're not at the table, you're on the menu, Prime Minister Carney told us.”

Marie-Claude Sarrazin, Quebec Justice Minister · Politico ↗ · Oct 26

Mark CarneyMark Carney Canadian Prime MinisterPaul St-Pierre PlamondonPaul St-Pierre Plamondon Quebec Premier (separatist)Marie-Claude Sarrazin Quebec Justice MinisterDonald TrumpDonald Trump US PresidentUrsula von der LeyenUrsula von der Leyen European Commission PresidentYves-François Blanchet Bloc Québécois leader

Carney Faces Quebec Backlash After Barring Premier's EU Summit Speech
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  1. 5

    Backlash builds in Quebec over Carney's decision

    Bloomberg reports a wave of political backlash in Quebec after Carney declined to let the separatist premier speak at the summit, deepening tensions in the French-speaking province.

    1. 16 outlets Canada aims to become EU's 'associate member' by June 2027: Carney

      first by Euronews, 9d ago · also Philadelphia Inquirer, Orlando Sentinel, Baltimore Sun, Mercury News, The Hill, Chicago Tribune +9

      9 more headlines
    2. 12 outlets Carney, top EU official push Canada associate membership, wider alliance against Trump threats

      first by Arab News, 9d ago · also The Hill, Fast Company, Politico Europe, Politico, Time, NYT +5

      6 more headlines
    3 more claims →
    • newsweek.com

      Canada and the EU are pursuing unprecedented ties as Trump warns of tariffs and possible trade restrictions.

      newsweek.comBluesky7d ago34▲view on Bluesky ↗
    2 more of the top 3 · 53 posts in this stretch

    • How exactly would Eueopean "social" and "economic" issues impact Canada? What are these social and economic issues exactly that are relevant? Why do you think Canadian citizens should have a say in strengthening ties with some of their closest and oldest allies? At what point do you include them or don't include them? Do you think the Canadian…

      Designer_Mud_5802r/worldnews8d agoview on r/worldnews ↗
    • dyckron@cosocial.ca

      "It is about reinforcing sovereignty. Why? So we can live our lives as we choose, our people can live their lives as they choose and have the full freedoms that people enjoy in the European Union and in Canada" So... Post secondary education is going to become free for Canadian students? No? Oh... Well, it's not really "as we choose" EU style so…

      dyckron@cosocial.caMastodon8d agoview on Mastodon ↗
    all of them →
  2. 4

    Draft declaration sidesteps von der Leyen's 'associate member' offer

    As the summit opens Thursday, reporting shows the joint draft declaration avoids discussing von der Leyen's six-week-old proposal to make Canada the EU's first 'associate member,' an idea several European countries have opposed.

    “It's never too late to do the right thing…”
    — Paul St-Pierre Plamondon, Quebec Premier · source
    1. 2 outlets Canada is taking steps toward becoming European Union's first associate member

      first by PBS NewsHour, 8d ago · also Associated Press

    2. 1 outlet first by Straits Times, 11d ago · read ↗

  3. background

    Carney says Plamondon is missing a 'valuable chance' — Carney urges the Quebec premier to reconsider skipping the summit, while St-Pierre Plamondon tells reporters it's not too late to change course.

  4. 3

    Carney previews summit as start of formal EU talks

    Ahead of the summit, Carney tells reporters the gathering will kick off formal negotiations with Europe on closer ties.

    “Ottawa would rather he "serve shrimp cocktail" at a function than address one.”
    — Paul St-Pierre Plamondon, Quebec Premier · source

    1. 4 outlets first by BNN Bloomberg, 12d ago · also Global News, iPolitics, CTV News · read ↗

  5. background

    Trump congratulates Quebec's separatist premier — Trump shares an article on St-Pierre Plamondon's election win headlined as a blow to Carney, congratulating him three weeks after the Oct. 5 vote amid Trump's own feud with Carney.

  6. 2

    Quebec accuses Ottawa of barring premier from summit podium

    Quebec's government says Ottawa refused Premier Paul St-Pierre Plamondon's request to address the summit; Carney counters that Plamondon himself declined the Thursday dinner invitation, calling it an 'empty chair' decision.

    1. 1 outlet Carney says Quebec premier is missing a ‘valuable chance’ for diplomacy at EU summit

      first by National Post, 11d ago

    2. 1 outlet Carney asks Quebec premier to reconsider decision to skip Canada-EU summit

      first by CBC, 11d ago

    1 more claim →

    • Sure, but Europeans travel and move to Australia and New Zealand more frequently still.

      ManicScumCatr/canada12d agoview on r/canada ↗
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    Carney announces Canada-EU Summit in Montreal

    The PM's office announces Canada will host EU leaders in Montreal Oct. 29-30 to advance a new strategic partnership covering trade, critical minerals, AI and defense.

    “An alliance strong enough so that no one can dictate our choices, and an alliance open enough that others can join.”
    — Mark Carney
    1. 3 outlets 8 things we learned at the EU-Canada summit

      first by Mastodon, 8d ago · also Jerusalem Post, Politico Europe

      1 more headline

    2. 3 outlets first by Mastodon, 9d ago · also Philadelphia Inquirer, BBC · read ↗

    3 more claims →

    • Your first sentence was saying it would be 10 years before boomers start dying off en masse , not "when is it reasonable for someone to expect measurable change and improvements to the nation". I think it's a pretty big jump to assume that boomers dying = improvement to the nation, or at least for that to be assumed as some consensus. Regardless…

      Radical_Redditorr/canada13d agoview on r/canada ↗
    2 more of the top 3 · 14 posts in this stretch

    • I’d hardly agree when I can have Claude automate most of what “skilled” workers do. That’s why I don’t really consider them skilled. We’re doing that at my company today. We’ve seen massive increase in productivity. Anyways my point is that the existing “skilled worker” when Ai can do their job is no longer skilled. It’s a job that’s no longer…

      shadowt1tanr/canada13d agoview on r/canada ↗

    • You still need to get a certain amount of income for this, and it's not COVID era anymore, not many local companies okay with you heading off to work remote in Spain. You should probably offer up more details on your friends experience, the visa might've been easy to get but your friends situation with work is most relevant. I don't know why…

      di-caxr/canada13d agoview on r/canada ↗
    all of them →

Also covered reported alongside — the timeline has no entry for these yet

  1. 2 outlets Canada seeks EU ‘associate member’ status as Carney counters Trump’s trade pressure

    first by The Times of India, 10d ago · also Toronto Star

    1 more headline
  2. 2 outlets Carney points to EU’s strong belief in democracy as political winds shift for 2 largest members

    first by Radio-Canada, 9d ago · also CBC

and 5 smaller pieces

What people are saying 18 voices from 2 sites · best of 68 · verbatim

Still unanswered
  • Under what time frame do you expect things to actually turn around?
  • Won't this screw over young Canadians?